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Mike: Faced With Reality, Objectivity Must Lose Childish Wishes, Speculation
(Apollonian, 8 July 14)
Mike (see below-copied): at least here (above-copied) u attempt to be more matter-of-fact and somewhat logical than ur previous entry, eh? But there's HUGE big problem for non-determinism just in the first place which u have to consider (I think). This, after all, is metaphysics, and if u found ur house (theories) on defective foundation, it quickly falls apart.
So we begin w. Aristotle vs. Plato, objectivity ("immanence") vs. subjective ("transcendence"). Note subjectivity is typically the resort of the moralists and MYSTICS (like Kant, esp.) pretending to perfectly "free" human will (HUBRIS) and then "good-evil" fallacy/delusion/heresy, analyzed and denounced by dear St. Augustine (Pelagianism, founded on fallacious "good-works"), revisited by Martin Luther.
Objectivity (though Aristotle himself seems to have been reluctant to make the conclusion) necessitates determinism, absolute cause-effect--we're sinners, always have been, always will be, seeking our interest (St. Augustine).
So u see, perfectly "free" human will is conceit, HUBRIS (madness), impossible, "good" the worst enemy of truth and freedom, "good" the foundation of fascism and tyranny--"good" is what road to heck is paved with, get a clue. And note it's impossible to set-up experiment to prove or even observe (perfectly) "free" will (same goes for "good"). The rest of ur text in above-copied is NOTHING but speculation, unsubstantiated assertion, and wishful thinking.
So to sum up, reality is either objective or not, for basic ASSUMPTION (metaphysics). Subjectivity is absurd--as anything goes. Hence ur question above, "why should this be?" is answered, though u may not like or accept.
--------------------------above by ap in response to below-copied--------------------------
Originally Posted by Mikebert