Admit it, u cowardly puke: U'RE TOTALLY TERRORIZED BY JEWS (and their suck-alongs)

One of the reasons it's so easy to lose respect for the scum of USA--"the people"--is they're such addicted puke (even me, myself, sorry to say, such as I am) to --the TV and false "prosperity"--MAMMON worshippers, truly.

But further, and most of all, they're (the "people," again) TOTALLY TERRORIZED and intimidated by these putrid, scummy Jews--yet they refuse to admit it--specifically, that they are scared of these stinking kikes.  So most people thus fail to understand the Jews are topmost terrorists--these Jews did 9-11, don't forget.

See, u can't say anything against kikes upon pain of losing ur stupid, suck-along's job.

And I notice--esp. if u ck the white-niggers on TheBeerBarrel.net, a site pretending to "free speech" for "white" people (which "white" they don't define, the dumb bastards), which is thoroughly infiltrated by Jews, by the way--stupid white niggers have such clever excuses for failing to note the kikes.  These white niggers say they don't say or think kikes are "hiding under 'EVERY' bed," and then they say they shouldn't blame kikes for everything.

Obvious pt. is that kikes are the top CRIMINALS, that's all.  Of course there are numerous criminals among the goyim--but what we ("anti-semites") say is Jews are at the top of it all for the large criminal network and conspiracy, beginning w. that topmost COUNTERFEITING scam, the US Federal Reserve.

Thus we see stupid white-niggers--no diff. fm the trendy, leftist, "metro-sexuals" on DailyKos--they like beerBarrel (better known as "queer-barrel") as they can get on and say the word, "nigger," nigger nigger--it makes them feel soooooooooooooooo good.

So we see, ironically enough, how it really is true that we're presently over-populated w. dumb bastards--like these stupid, Jew-friendly white niggers, w. all their stupid excuses and platitudes.

Note these dumb bastards are on both sides, "left" (the "metro-sexuals," in general) and "right" (the "Judeo-Christians" [or "Christian-zionists"]--JCs--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo/ref.--who say Christ was Jew), so perfectly have the kikes taken over fm all sides.

And the cultural crux to it all is truly philosophic, getting down to the real meaning of Christianity--ANTI-SEMITISM, suckers--Christian TRUTH vs. Jew lies (see Gosp. JOHN 8:44).

But note MOST PEOPLE CANNOT think--it's just impossible for them--and that's why we're in such horrific difficulty.  Dumb bastards have been "empowered"--they think they're boss now--ho ho ho--and u see them on places like queer-barrel, running their mouths, feeling like they're soooooooooo strong and smart.

Thus the "empowered" dumb-shits and white-niggers have "taken control," in their little groups, as on queer-barrel, and it's interesting how they operate, intimidating people (so they think, anyway) by means of "reputation" pt.s, attached to every posting made by who-ever posts, which they inflict upon anyone they don't like--esp. anti-semites like urs truly, ho ho ho.

Dumb bastards and white-niggers "empowered" and "taking-control"--that's (another reason) why USA is going down the proverbial "drain," indubitably, stupid white-niggers and scum so easily "influenced" by the strategically targeted funding of the COUNTERFEITERS of Fed.  This then (strategic, even brilliant, Fed funding) is why and how kikes at top rule--and they have the dip-shits and white-niggers, maybe not a majority, but still the largest single group, working most enthusiastically for them, un-questionably.

Disagree w. "libertarian"?--get "booted"--ho ho ho

Well, I had a little dis-agreement w. this "libertarian" moron, leader of a "meetup.com" group--u know, those "lovers of liberty," ho ho ho.

This "libertarian" thinks he's doing us all a great favor sending links and references for us to look at, right? But one of these lists included an "intro" with holohoax bullshit (see just below, no. 1), so I wrote back, telling him I wasn't going to put up w. this stupid crap, lies, and propaganda.

He wrote one more note simply repeating and asserting the same lies, and I responded telling him he was a fool sucking up to liars--whence he "booted" me fm his stinking little group--good riddance, I say.

Below are the notes' texts; first begins the original generic transmission to all the group's recipients including me:


(1) "“I am a survivor of a concentration camp. My eyes saw what no person should witness. Gas chambers built by learned engineers. Children poisoned by educated physicians. Infants killed by trained nurses. Women and babies shot and killed by high school and college graduates. So I’m suspicious of education. My request is: help your students to be HUMAN. Your efforts must never produce learned monsters, skilled psychopaths, or educated Eichmanns. Reading and writing and spelling and history and arithmetic are only important if they serve to make our students human.” - Haim Ginott - Was a school principal who witnessed and experienced the Nazi concentration camps of the 1930s and early 1940s"

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So I wrote back:

"William: I submit u lose credibility when u give currency to these slanderous lies about German gas chambers during WWII--there's NO EVIDENCE, just lies by liars, proven liars.

"Where are the gas chambers?--did it ever occur to u to ask such simple question?

"Why are there NO bodies or remains?--none--and I'm talking about such remains as can be proven fm these "gas-chambers."

"It's same problem as when u send vids about Bill Still's "Secrets of Oz" which advocates fiat money--these are "MIXED SIGNALS," which are contradictory and confusing--who can have confidence in u when u do this sort of "spamming," as it were?"

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The "lover of liberty" then wrote back:

(2) "Sir, My main interest is in making people think. I don't always agree 100% with all the items and connections I send out but I do want to expose folks to new and sometimes conflicting ideas to spark conversation and further interest or research. Your reference to Nazi Death camps and concentration camps as not in evidence is totally wrong and un factual. I've been to Germany and seen Dachau and there were definitely gas chambers there. And Eisenhower recorded extensive film evidence of what they found on the occupation of defeated Nazi forces. You need to quit walking around with your eyes wide shut."

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Now, here's where I REALLY messed-up (ho ho ho), as I wrote back in reply to just-above:


"U need to quit playing the fool, sucking-up to liars.

"But nonetheless I applaud any honest debating of real issues, which holohoax is one. U HAVE NO "EVIDENCE," and if u do, present the citations like a decent scholar--don't just make assertions.

"There were no gas chambers in Dachau, and if u say there were, give the citation(s).

"Did u know Eisenhower was descended fm Jews (according to the West Pt. yearbook when he attended, about 1915) and hated Germans and wanted to kill more Germans? In fact, Eisenhower did see to the murder of hundreds of thousands of German P-O-Ws after the war--see James Baque, "Other Losses," and "Crimes and Mercies."

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(3) So after this, I rec'd a form note fm the parent site (Meetup.com) saying I was removed--so I naturally demanded to know what for, and got this fm the dear "lover of liberty"--and I'm not making this up:


(4) "Sir,

"I am always prepared for sensical discussion but denying that there were concentration camps and extermination camps shows you have really slanted your study of history and your confrontational tones with others in the group is why you were booted off. You really need to improve your diplomacy. Your list of the minorities that you seem eager to villify and denegrade shows an evil mind with strong scapegoating tendencies. I have been studying World War II for over 40 years and you really need to get your own head out of your posterior so that you too can see the forest for the trees. The evidence for the Holocaust is all there because the Nazis themselves made meticulous records of what they were doing. I have many books dealing with WW II and the Holocaust is extremely well documented. If you wish to see the evidence I can show at least half a dozen books that specialize on the subject and my own personal pictures I took when I was in Germany and visited Dachau. It was all very real. Your ignorance of the war and the whole time period for the first half of the 20th century shows you are also not a true seeker of the truth. I can include you in my extras list to continue receiving Liberty Connections or you can just drop out of the whole search for truth and the ways of freedom and liberty."

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So I wrote back:

"The reason I was "booted," as u put it, is u're incapable of debate upon the facts. U were called out for ur lies--there were no "death" camps in Germany. Even the pushers of holohoax lies admit the alleged and fictional "killings" took place outside Germany. U were given ur opportunity to provide citations and references which u can't do--so u lost the debate and now u confirm it by "booting" one who shows u up for the ignorant liar u are.

"There's nothing wrong w. "confrontation"--that's the way debate takes place, and why should one be "diplomatic" w. liars like urself?

""List of minorities"?--whatever are u talking about?--I made no such list anywhere.

"But ur best one is "evil mind"--so u think u're "good"?--tell us what is the premise. I uphold truth and challenge u for evidence which u not only don't have--U DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT of what "evidence" entails.

"And it doesn't occur to u that Germany was fighting the VERY SAME banking oligarchs, who subsidized the communists then, and who are today consolidating their empire in the way of "New World Order," the United Nations, etc.

"U're just a stupid punk going nowhere, spamming people's in-boxes, not even urself bothering to read what u send or reading what others send u in way of references and citations--U'RE A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME. Don't bother me w. any further notes."

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Such are the "libertarians"--infested w. morons, scum, and zionist suck-ups--puke who are just tired of the more establishment Rep.s and Dem.s, so they migrate to the next candidates, the "libertarians."

Dialectic with "Judeo-Christian" (though he denies it) upon what exactly IS Christianity

Here's another great dialectic found at http://www.thebeerbarrel.net/showthread.php?8911-What-IS-Christianity-a-dialectic-btwn-mighty-apster-and-presumptuous-MAT/page3; it has to do w. meaning of Christianity.

And sorry for the large spaces in btwn these paragraphs--I tried and tried to take them out by "editing" but it just doesn't want to work. I leave a single space, but when I hit "publish" I find the son-of-a-bitch puts double the spaces. I give up.

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Fool Mis-Represents What He Then Condemns
(Apollonian, 14 Jul 11)

MAT: Poor fool, readers will observe u've totally mis-represented Christ's statement (see below-copied by MAT) about "judging." If u lie about one quote, u may have lied about the others too--certainly mis-understood them, regardless. One MUST judge--there's simply no way around it--it's just one must be careful to note criterion by which one judges as it will be applied to oneself in due time. Christ did NOT NOT NOT tell people to not judge (as u allege)--this would be stupid--which is how u understand Christianity which u then condemn.

Problem is u understand "intelligent" (like a Jew) to meaning biased like urself. And indeed, I oppose ur demented and biased understanding which is NOT NOT NOT "intelligent" in proper sense of the word.

Christ un-questionably emphasized idea that truth is pre-eminent value, HONESTY then the pre-eminent ethical virtue--AGAINST the Pharisees (and others, but Pharisees were worst of the bunch) who, in their hubris, always twisted things and lied to suit their interests ("what's 'good' for Jews"). Thus Christ upheld the Aristotelian reality (or "God-created" according to Christians) against Pharisaic/Talmudic subjectivism (as of urs, I'd note).

As Christ is anti-Talmudic (anti-lies and anti-subjective), he is necessarily anti-semitic, ipso facto--I doubt anyone would disagree. Truth then is absolutely thematic for Christian aesthetic/philosophy defining absolutely EVERYTHING else, necessarily.

I don't at all "attack" Christ's teachings--I attack ur miserable "interpretations," that's all. I only say Christ didn't and couldn't have meant what u idiotically say he meant.

And the "cognitive dissonance" is entirely on ur part; u're actually preaching "Judeo-Christianity" (JC) but don't have the wit to understand the stupidity u speak/write. U're such a smug, brainless fool with ur slip-shod, totally conventional "interpretations" which I've shown are so prejudiced if not entirely false--as about ur assertion on "judging." It doesn't occur to a moron like u Jews have sedulously subsidized a Jew-oriented, Jew-serving understanding/"interpretation of Christianity, it's worst enemy, for nearly two hundred yrs now, which is proven in the infamous Scofield Bible, for example--see Whtt.org for expo/ref.

CONCLUSION: MAT: my writings go back ten yrs now which anyone can research at NewNation.org, under "commentary." I'm quite confident for my expo/research; u're the one half-assed and flippant for ur Jew-serving "understanding." Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian


-------------------above by Ap in response to below-copied by MAT--------------------

Yes, that is the full quote--wherein Jesus advises his followers not to judge others. You have not refuted a damn thing.

I do not expect you to utter anything remotely intelligent. The entire basis for your interpretation of Christianity is merely one N.T. verse, which you manhandle to boot. You also believe that Jesus was not Jewish--when he, and all of his apostles and early followers, were Jewish. The earliest Christians just considered themselves another Jewish sect; in fact, the decision to convert Gentiles and not force them to comply with Jewish ceremonial 'laws' was not one that came naturally or easily.

It is also funny that you attack many of Jesus' teachings, suggesting that he could not have meant what he taught because such is illogical, e.g., "loving one's enemies." I find this amusing because many folks who are opposed to Christianity expressly have a problem with these teachings, suggesting that they are unrealistic or simply inapplicable in real life. Such individuals may be right, but at least they have the balls to state they are not Christians because they disagree with some of Christ's teachings, as opposed to claiming to be Christian while similarly disagreeing with such teachings.

You would live with far less cognitive dissonance if you just accept the fact that you are not a Christian. If you are actually a white man, I suggest Asatru. No need to hate Jews and worship them at the same time, or to mangle their teachings to create a pseudo-theological mess.


---------------------------below-copied by MAT in response to above (top) by Ap---------------

We can agree that Jesus was anti-Talmudic, and obviously opposed the Pharisees and Sadducees.

However, Jesus was a Jew, who preached to other Jews, who was followed around by a bunch of other Jews, and so forth. He was clearly not an anti-Semite, at least not in the sense that the term has been understood since the Jews started to cry about their poisecution.

Jesus was only "anti-Semitic" in the sense that he tried to teach the conservative Jews of his day to reform themselves, to be less tribalistic and less hateful. But he was no Aryan warlord or Greek student of Aristotle -- he was a Jew.

Also, I am no "Judeo-Christian."

"As Christ is anti-Talmudic (anti-lies and anti-subjective), he is necessarily anti-semitic, ipso facto--I doubt anyone would disagree." -Apollonian fm above, 14 Jul 11

Au contraire, there is not anyone who would agree. This is another massive oversimplification heaped upon another oversimplification with a conclusion that would literally astound any rational person.

1) Opposing Talmudic teachings, as even some Jews do, does not ipso facto make one "anti-Semitic."
2) The Talmud is not simply about "lies" and "subjectivity" -- nor is Christianity simply about "TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH" and "objectivity."

----------------------below-copied by Ap in response to above by MAT-----------------

Apsterian Expo Mightily Crushes Home, Steadily, Surely, Triumphantly
(Apollonian, 15 Jul 11)

Slowly but steadily MAT finds he must admit to and adopt the definitions, exposition, and meanings mighty Apster has so consistently held.

Observe MAT admits Christ was anti-Talmudic (thus admitting the premise), but now wants to quibble and continue to insist Christ was Jew, MAT insisting Jew is more/other than Pharisaic/Talmudist and those racially related which assertion then consists simply of the fallacy of EQUIVOCATION--conflating two (or more) different things into one and the same. But I maintain the verifiable truth that Jew, strictly speaking, IS NOT same as "Judean," but rather, as I noted w. ref.s, Jew being follower of Pharisees, etc., and those racially related.

MAT then begs the question regarding, "...in the sense that the term has been understood," that term being "anti-semitic," which is anti-Jew (not Judean), or anti-Talmudist. In fact, one can confidently say anti-semitic means anti-Talmudist, practically perfectly parallel terms, and so it has always been held by the Jews themselves. Anti-Talmud is anti-semitic ipso facto.

Thus MAT grudgingly admits and agrees w. my necessary conclusion (Christ was absolutely anti-semitic), though he petulantly wants to stipulate conditions which I never put--I never said Christ was "Aryan warlord." For Christ was Gallilean of Judean descent (not Jew--not Pharisaic) who preached the real Mosaic law--against the Pharisaics, the Pharisaics conspiring thus to have Christ murdered.

And now here we begin to get to the real nitty-gritty about the real, essential Christianity and what it REALLY means first and most (yes, it does feature TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH as foremost principle, as I noted). And observe I didn't say Christ was "Greek" student of Aristotle, but he was Aristotelian without doubt for the primary immanence of Aristotle--OBJECTIVITY. Reality exists in its own right ("God-created" according to the Christians) regardless of our own consciousnesses, thus premise for TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH--an extremely anti-semitic (anti-Talmudic) principle.

For what is the Talmud?--even as MAT himself has already essentially admitted, teaching hate and warfare for the sake of war. Thus the Talmud teaches reality is ONLY what the rabbis say it is (subjectivism, ipso facto), this always serving the "good" of the Jews--but always then, of course, for the special "good" of the leaders of the Jews, the heck w. lower-level kikes whom the top Jews merely use as means to their ends.

Thus Christian TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH vs. Jew lies is very much and precisely the SAME as Aristotelian OBJECTIVITY vs. Jew/Talmudic subjectivity. Q.E.D. And it's impossible and absurd for any "Jew" to oppose the Talmud, for he wouldn't be a Jew (by definition) any longer--it's inconceivable. And in fact, Jews would see to it the apostate Jew would be dead, dead, dead--as they've so well demonstrated throughout hist., Talmud being essentially just a hand-book for CRIMINALS, pure and simple. And Christ cursed the Pharisees (see 23rd chapt. Gosp. MATT) for making the law of Moses into such a criminal enterprise, beginning w. making the law of men to being law of God (Gosp. MARK 7:1-13 and MATT 15:3-9).

Hence Christianity, the philosphy thereto and therein, is NECESSARILY founded upon the idea of truth (as in Gosp. JOHN), hence objectivity, without such objectivity there could be no truth--this, opposed to Jew lies and Talmudism which is meant to serve the "good" of the Jews (actually, their leaders), as defined by the kikes.

MAT is indubitably and without question one who spouts the same "Judeo-Christian" hereticalist lies to effect Christianity and Judaism (Talmudism) are mere variants of same thing; they're NOT NOT NOT--they are HEGELIAN OPPOSITES and anti-theses necessarily and without question. Thus Christianity is so eminently rational and reasonable whereas Judaism/Talmudism is irrationalist and mystic featuring the false "faith" of believing absurd things, this "believing" then creating a false reality within the subject. Proper Christianity only holds "faith" as LOYALTY, like the faithful husband to wife. MAT is half-baked and slip-shod for his understanding and distinctions as I've noted over and over.

CONCLUSION: Hence it is mighty apster has demonstrated his case so conclusively; MAT must lie grossly and grievously to maintain Christ was Jew, a most disgusting and putrid falsehood, and note how he does it, (a) ignoring the ref.s and expo given by apster, (b) continuing then mindlessly and stupidly to repeating the same balderdash as he does. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Here's a neat dialectic we had, starting a few days ago. Dialectic basically starts here http://www.thebeerbarrel.net/showthread.php?7822-Hi-everybody!/page18, item 177, and then continues at another couple of threads, http://www.thebeerbarrel.net/showthread.php?9040-Is-the-Bible-God, and http://www.thebeerbarrel.net/poll.php?pollid=116&do=showresults.

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Christianity Is Simply Reason Against Mysticism, Irrationalism Harnessed By Jews

(Apollonian, 18 Jul 11)

"Iosiah": I'm not an obedient dog-like animal like u, who "obeys." Rather, I'm honest sinner who essentially does what I pls, pursuing my happiness, in accord w. what I think is real, true, reasonable, and proper. The rule is REASON, period, and Christ is great because that's how he understands ethics, as he says and demonstrates.

Thus the appropriate "commandments" are, as I noted, (1) understanding reality, hence God, and appreciating things ("love God")--(2) and then act accordingly by justice, which second part merely follows logically fm the first. Thus God's (Christ's) advice is to think and be rational, reducing things most simply. Thus Christ re-stated the Old Test., and New Test. reason/rationality is all we need, as I've extensively exposited this thread.

Christ is the God of reason and specifically TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 14:6) against Jew lies (JOHN 8:44). Thus Christianity upholds the Aristotelian OBJECTIVE reality against Jew subjectivism, for basic philosophy, as only objectivity provides criterion for TRUTH. Christianity is not about bean-counting and "obeying" like a dog--as u seem to think--u're just a child; u should grow-up.

Regarding "morality": remember ethics is mere logic btwn ends and means, that's all. Means must properly serve ends.

So u see "Iosiah," u need to grow-up and become a thinking adult: given the OBJECTIVE reality, things are DETERMINED in accord w. absolute cause-effect--there's NO perfectly "free" human will, and thus there's no "good-evil." Everyone does best they can. Jews and queers are irrational and insane, that's all--they're DISEASES-of-opportunity afflicting "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler whence over-populated people suffer hubris, pretending to fallacious, delusional, hereticalist "good-evil," imagining it's good to "tolerate" these monstrous scum and psychopaths, Jews and queers.

Remember, pretending to being "good," as u seem to do, is classic Pharisaism, by definition; u're just a sinner like anyone else. queers (and Jews) are scum as they destroy rational society like the irrationalist diseases they are, and we Christians are soldiers of God and rationality above all.

CONCLUSION: But only 5%, or even less, entirely grasp and can really handle purest REASON, u understand--which then is why we have the advice and "commandments" of Christ to guide us by way of supplement to reason. I hope I've made things simpler for u to understand--we're NOT Pharisees--we don't need "commandments," except as advisory guidance for the weak-minded. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian


-----------------above by Ap in response to below by "Iosiah"-----------------------

Originally Posted by Iosiah

I don't suppose you're referring to these Mark and Matthew verses? Jesus speaking:

Mark 10:19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do nor bear false witness, Defraud not, Honor they father and mother.

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

How do you have any moral high ground over a fag when you only obey two commandments yourself?

-----------------------"Iosiah" further responded, below-copied----------------


Originally Posted by Iosiah

No, you are quite dog-like. You're just a rebel who hates God. John 14:16 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

You think you can lean on your own righteousness and then say that Jesus approves. That is absurd. It's not about what you think is "real, true, reasonable, and proper." As a man, you're too dumb to define those things. There is nothing about "reason" or "ethics" in the scriptures.

Loving God is keeping the commandments. 1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

What's with this "TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH" silliness? Christianity, from Genesis to Revelation is absolutely about obedience to God. To say anything else is a lie.

No duh, tard. It's called "predestination." Free willers are heretics. Like you.

Then shut up about the Bible because you have no Biblical basis to speak against Jews and fags with the heresies you've constructed. You're operating purely out of your own righteousness. If your problem with these people is their irrationality, why would you try to bring Christianity into it?


------------------Ap next responded, below-copied---------------------

Christian Aesthetic Is Triumphant Unifier Against Lies, Jews, Et Al.

(Apollonian, 18 Jul 11)

"Iosiah": u're one of those poor creatures who tries to being a good little boy for God understood as parent, u pretending to being "obedient"--which is just as well as u have no brains, obviously--or very little.

Christ affirms TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 14:6) which immediately and necessarily implies the OBJECTIVE (Aristotelian) reality. And God gives us our REASON by which to think, act, and operate. Bible is mere ancillary supplement written by men which u forget too easily as u're just not very smart--it's weaklings like u that most NEED the Bible and its advice as u can't figure things out on ur own.

CONCLUSION: Why dear "Christianity"?--it's universal aestheticalist unifier against lies and those most satanic henchmen, the Jews and their accomplices like the "Judeo-Christian" (JC--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo/ref.) hereticalists who rule presently. Christ affirms the objective reality, criterion for TRUTH, TRUTH, TRUTH (without objective reality, there'd be no "truth," u see). Thus objectivity is basis for all human reason, logic, and science, ethics, etc. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

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-----------There were further dialectical exchanges which one can see at above-noted URLs------------

[It's been almost three weeks without a new posting here, but I've been busy at a discussion site, TheBeerBarrel.net--which is like a large blog, u know. And I was able to get in several good DIALECTICS which is the great feature of blogs and blogging, multiplied at discussion sites (see link, just below). Immediately below is an instance of a dialectic I had w. a faggot/gay/homosexual who was typically making excuses for his faggotry, claiming he WAS NOT trying to push an agenda. We had several exchanges, but below is when I thought I quite effectively rebutted him at one posting. See http://www.thebeerbarrel.net/showthread.php?7822-Hi-everybody!/page13. I answer in the numbered paragraphs corresponding to his statements, numbering to which I super-added.]

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Mighty Apster Refutes The Queer's Lies, Propaganda

(Apollonian, 17 Jul 11)

Hey thanks much, Friedrich, for ur snappy and spirited response--it gives me something to work w. by way of "reasoning" w. u, eh? But again and before anything else, note queers are simply ADDICTS and psychotically obsessed w. sense gratification. Ur entire response is nothing but excuses and cheap rationalizations which have been hrd before and will NOT NOT NOT ultimately be tolerated.

1. U didn't come here to "push gay agenda"?--U'RE A LIAR, pure and simple. Proof is ur typical, stupid excuses and rationalizations, again--this is "pushing agenda," by definition.

2. A queer is an addict--u're not ONLY "attracted"--u actively seek out sense gratification w. others of same sex; ultimately u queer scum all end up as crass alcoholics, and u always get around to attempting to seducing younger, more vulnerable victims--u're predators, without any doubt.

3. Well, being queer would be useless and meaningless if it didn't end up w. the thematic sense gratfication, hence "act," u scum sooo desperately crave, eh? Being queer is now part of a mentality and culture and is "political" of necessity.

4. Sure, disease and psychosis are parts of nature too and will always be there, but they don't usually prevail in human society except when that society suffers "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler.

5. As every act is necessarily consequence of human will, expression/assertion of "sexuality" is responsibility w. legal consequences--same as TREASON and any other crime--ur sort of putrid corruption has simply been tolerated far too much, and must now be dealt with more actively/drastically, in un-compromising manner--it WILL NOT be tolerated--and u're going to understand this one way or another, comrade.

6. U're just a liar, and what u "believe" is most often just a lie u tell urself to justify ur perversion and socio-pathology, scum.

7. Right, queer scum: and we've hrd that before fm queers like urself too, haven't we? Actually, EVERYONE is "latent" queer, eh?--some are simply more rational and more successful in guiding and restraining themselves. But ur stupid excuses will NOT NOT NOT ultimately be tolerated, as I've warned u.

8. Encouraging queers is KNOWN strategy of Jews and cultural subversives like communists--who are always guided by Jews--ALWAYS.

9. Queers are ALWAYS basically adjuncts to (a) irrationalists and (b) subjectivists, these led by professional subverters of society, thus Jews--these are simply known, verified facts of history. U've already made known ur sympathy to kikes. So queers are simply the lower-level cadre of a core-group, led by Jews, the purpose being the intimidation/terrorization and regimentation of society in general. As for most issues, MOST people are "un-decided" in the middle btwn extremely small minorities at the polar ends, sociologically/politically. Queers are known, confirmed advocates of the "New World Order" (NWO) which features "freedom" for queers. Death to queers.

10. "Sexual rev." and "teen pregnancy" are mere symptoms of same problem, queers being just another of general societal break-down, scum--they're all related, part and parcel.

11. "White man's expense" is promoted by Jews, hence queers, Jews' little helpers/accomplices--another well-known fact, scummy lying queer.

12. "Gay people" are psychotic, obsessive enemies of society and its youth; they are criminals and traitors waging war upon that society, exterminating such queer enemies is NOT "murder"--it's rather self-defense.

13. Eradicating queers along w. Jews and other diseases may or may not "increase numbers"--what's important is defending the volk, insuring the security of a just and healthy society.

14. "Young gay people" must simply change their corrupt and perverted habits, and as they are rational and realize such filthy habits won't be tolerated, the smart ones will surely repent their filthy sins and reform their habits in healthier way. What, pray tell, is "pseudo-religious"?--I'm being perfectly frank in PUREST, honest, logical reason. Ur corruption/perversion WILL NOT be tolerated. U will get a clue--or, u will be dead, dead, dead, scum. I think this attitude of mine is both (a) honest, and (b) most rational indeed; if it isn't u need to say why/how. U might call it "tough love"--I call it HONESTY in matter-of-fact way. Regardless, u WILL get a "clue"--OR ELSE.

15. U're just an ignorant liar, as usual w. u scummy, stupid queers. Queers are psychotically obsessed TRAITORS who collude w. worst enemies of mankind, Jews--sure, that may be a "talent" to perverted scum like u queers. But I was hist. major in grad-school, and I assure u ur'e brainless ignorant moron when it comes to Renaissance which was essentially the SECULARIZATION of what previously was oriented to the after-life, the integration of the world of sense-perception w. the abstract by means of reason--NOT NOT NOT queer perversion which is built upon trendy, faddish, "fashionable" ignorance and half-assed "new-age"-style mysticism and mumbo-jumbo psycho-babble.

16. Yes, privacy is a right in reason and rational society, but on the contrary, u queers want to make it public, pushing ur perversion in people's faces, forcing the children to be propagandized at the schools, insisting queers should be hired by private companies and not "discriminated" against, u scummy, corrupt queer liar.

17. No, we Christian soldiers are going to take-back our Western society, and we're going to EXTERMINATE w. "extreme prejudice" u filthy, corrupt, perverted friends and sympathizers of Jews. U've now been totally refuted, once again, and I repeat: u're lucky I'm being most reasonable w. u now, scum. U queers are NOT NOT NOT going to be tolerated. Get a clue to save ur scummy life, puke. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian


----------------above by Ap in response to below-copied by "Friedrich"--------------

[1] I didn't come here to push a queer agenda, but since you seem obsessed with it...
[2] Being gay means you are attracted to the same sex.
[3] It is not a sex act or political act in itself.
[4] It occurs in nature, across cultures, and will always be there.
[5] Except for bisexual people I think sexuality is fixed (albeit more so in gay men than women).
[6] As such I don't believe that anybody can be seduced into a "gay lifestyle".
[7] That's a basic admission that the person who argues this is latently homosexual/bisexual himself.
[8] The blatant sexualization of society may lead to corruption.
[9] The gay minority isn't big enough to really influence it either way.
[10] The sexual revolution and the teen pregnancy epidemics are doing much worse for society.
[11] It's not that white people don't breed, it's that the other races breed uncontrollably at the white man's expense.
[12] You want to murder white gay people?
[13] Oh yeah, that's definitely going to increase our numbers.
[14] A lot of young gay people end up as hopeless liberals, because they hear pseudo-religious crap like yours.
[15] Gay people also have talents that can benefit society, and without them there wouldn't have been a renaissance after the dark ages.
[16] What people do in their bedrooms with other consenting adults is their own business.
[17] Maybe you should become a Salafi Muslim and fuck off to Saudi Arabia


---------------------"Friedrich responds to apster, below-copied---------------------


Yeah, whatever, you've already said I should be exterminated long ago.
What more is there to say?
Are you honestly saying that straight men are so simply because they have more restraint on their same sex desires?
I don't find that at all, and straight people like a lot of heterosexual sense-gratification.
Either you have same sex attraction or not, but my male straight friends have none.
But, rather predictably, now its going into New Ageism versus "Christian soldiers".
You enjoy your beliefs, and I'll enjoy mine.


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"Straights" Are More Rational Than Queers, Who Are Psychotic, By Definition, Other Things Being Equal

(Apollonian, 17 Jul 11)

"What more is there to say?"--I don't know: that's up to u, evidently, as u plainly came here to "push ur agenda," as I noted.

What I'm saying is that queers are (a) addicts and psychotically obsessed, (b) then necessarily, given the cultural/psychologic configurations, accomplices to the worst enemies of mankind, the Jews, who deliberately promote such corruption/perversion as queers.

And thus "straights" do not, by definition, indulge/partake in such corruption/perversion. Straights are thus no more virtuous than any other citizen who chooses NOT to indulge in any sort of criminality.

So "straights," like any non-criminal citizen, deserve credit for not oppressing society as queers do. "Straights" may indeed have similar urge to sheer "sense gratification," but they're more rational as to be more constrained for choice of partners--and deserve due credit for what it's worth.

CONCLUSION: Right queer: I'm sure u'll "enjoy" ur "beliefs"--and the large drama is presently taking place in the world's cultural struggle as we observe in "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler. I just wanted to be sure u're successful in ur campaign of "pushing" ur "agenda," as u do. Ur fellow queers surely appreciate ur arguments as u've presented, indubitably. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

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Corsi delivers crushing, fatal blow for truth, justice, Western culture

Book Review: Corsi, Applicator Of Reason, Honesty; Executor Of Lies, Conspiracy
(Apollonian, 29 Jun 11)

"Where's the Birth Certificate," by Jerome Corsi, WND Books, NY, 2011, 392 pages, w. notes and index, is truly a stupendous, extensive, and scholarly work which essentially and definitively DEMOLISHES Barack H. Obama for epic fraud in his criminal occupation of US Presidency. And of course, Obama himself is just the front-man to larger conspiracy, another production of those powers behind the US Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) COUNTERFEIT scam--see RealityZone.com for expo/ref.

For what Corsi does is detailed, but not mere tedious reviewing of the entire subject-matter which began even before the 2008 campaign; Corsi exhaustively treats the foundation of meaning of "natural born citizen" (NBC), and further, he painstakingly covers the Obama campaign's attempts to spin, lie, deceive, intimidate, and distract fm the actual facts. Further, Corsi and the publishers append numerous pictures of relevant documents and computer-screen "captures" for Obama camp's various false statements.

And there's no doubt: Obama knows he's NOT qualified for the office, why he's spent almost two million dollars on lawyer fees, and it all raises the question as to why his backers have deliberately created this crisis which is bound to blow-up in their faces as things continue to get worse and worse for USA both economically and politically.

Remember, there is nothing quite like a full exposition of facts, presented in one work, for the mind to leisurely consider when faced w. the sheer enormity of this gripping and deliberate fraud which additionally amounts to a profound and pointed spitting-in-the-face of the American people, law, rational culture, truth, and human reason itself, for all the various idiotic, and deliberately conspiratorial frauds and self-deceptions perpetrated throughout our recent political history.

Obama fans themselves may never be impressed or persuaded by Corsi, but these are becoming steadily fewer and fewer; otherwise, the book's great effect is obviously upon those who were non-committal, not to mention those many already in-the-know who are now even more greatly strengthened for the fullest grasp of things.

CONCLUSION: Even if one thinks one already knows the pertinent facts (as I did), Corsi's expo is well-worth the reading for his masterly and artistic rendition which is much like a work-of-art in itself--as it presents things in one large, but coherent and simple production by which one can thus wonder at the pathetic and futile attempts of enemies of Truth as they desperately try to destroy not only USA, but all rational Western culture as well. Ultimately, it's truth and reason against lies and sheer criminality--such is the excellent effect of Corsi's magnificent job. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Queers: want to destroy marriage, society, children, humanity, reason, and reality--stupid suck-alongs w. Jew filth

Queers: Suck-Alongs With Jews And Judeo-Christian Destroyers Of Societies

(Apollonian, 27 Jun 11)

What is the purpose/function of marriage? Obviously then, it goes back a long time, even before invention of writing. Thus marriage was then and is now a special relation recognized by law. And we can see the plain purpose of it, for one thing among other possibilities: marriage is a practice/relation/function/endeavor which is especially noted, protected, revered, and sanctioned by the state as something which properly supports the state, upon which the state is founded, defended, and preserved--the production of healthy, loyal children and future citizens. For no one can produce such children and future "social-security" as well as the individual parents.

So we can see presently the homosexual affliction and disease of our culture is no less than an active, deliberate effort to destroy culture and the people, esp. for the ability and function of precisely this raising of future citizens. The children must be perverted along w. the corrupted mental programming in other areas.

For homosexuality, esp. in its final stages, is actually nothing less than psychotic addiction to mere sense-gratification, and it's no surprise queers are notorious alcoholics on top of everything else in their emphasis and addiction to gross irrationality--irrationality for the sheer sake of irrationality. Queers hate intellect, favoring sense-gratification.

And we see further how queers are always so closely associated w. Jews, as Jews exude irrationality (sublimely strategic as it is, for all their success in otherwise defeating conventionally "rational" people in the formerly functional society, now in "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler), hatred of truth (see Gosp. JOHN 8:44), and of a reality they cannot change by means of their whims and incessant lies. For expo/ref. on Jew Talmud, the founding Jew document, see Mike A. Hoffman II at RevisionistHistory.org and RevisionistReview.blogspot.com; also see Come-and-hear.com for excellent Talmudic expo.

For the Jews are foremost, topmost criminals who run society's legalized COUNTERFEITING scam (see RealityZone.com for expo/ref. on US Federal Reserve Bank fraud) by which this relatively small group of psychopaths controls EVERYTHING else, owning literally everything and nearly everyone, including the political system, the judicial system--everything.

Thus one sees how irrationality only now made so fashionable is foundation of the criminal COUNTERFEITING fraud, now called "banking," and how such cultural irrationality over-flows to the toleration and downright promotion of queers, queers now working to control and pervert the children of society now facing utter destruction.

CONCLUSION: And the fashion of irrationality begins w. the romanticization of mysticism (anti-reason) and esp. the general HUBRIS by which humans imagine they have a perfectly "free" will, akin thus to veritable Godliness, God defined by such perfection of freedom of will. For humanity thus corrupted insists thereby upon "GOODNESS" against "evil"--which could not exist without preceding "free" will, people so easily affected by inferiority complex programmed into them fm earliest youth and childhood. The great irony is queers insist they were "born" queer--which determinism (absolute cause-effect, foundation of science) is actually the very opposite of their idiotic and fallacious "free"-will delusion/fallacy. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian