Holodomor was real, but needs evidence--problem here is Jew Unz's typical crushing free speech, but hey, Jews digging their own graves, ho ho ho ho oho....

Below-copied by ap submitted, but CENSORED/deleted by kike, Unz, at comments, http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-grow...scam/#comments

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Holodomor Was Surely Real, But Requires Evidence, Etc.
(Apollonian, 22 Feb 19)

Jacques: MOST of my entries are deleted by Unz who's terrified of my (or any) expositing (a) the Satanist state of culture in general, (b) the Jews, being leading Satanists (extreme subjectivists), naturally now dominating, exploiting the situation.

(c) And note it's all part of a CYCLIC hist. process. Unz is NOT interested in either truth or free speech--he wants to maintain Satanist/Jew hegemony of situation--and he seems to be having good time of it too, ho ho ho ho--didja' see the "LOL" he appended at end of my complaint he published?

(d) For Jews didn't and couldn't start the satanification; following the natural hubris of over-populated goons, scum, and filth, it's simply natural CYCLIC corruption of a mature and over-mature culture, presently in "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler.

And given the general corruption and Satanist movement and situation of the culture, Jews absolutely dominate the dumbass, dis-organized goyim goons, Jews now the agents of de-population of the over-populated puke--by war, famine, pestilence, etc. Over-populated goons never knew what hit them, they thoroughly satiated w. TV and football games, etc.--if not Jews as exploiters, it would surely just be someone else.

I don't think holodomor is prop. I think holodomor happened, fm what I understand. And thou mis-understood: what I said was (a) there was general famine and failure of crops due to difficult weather and natural politically incompetent management of economy, this over wide area of Russia AND Ukraine.

(b) Further, there was a special political effort by bolshies, Stalin, Kaganovitch, et al., to punish and control Ukraine, compounding the situation, which led to real holodomor, but w. many deaths in other areas too, which other deaths Satanists, Jews, and Stalinist sympathizers use to make light of Ukrainian holodomor.

Still, all this info MUST be corroborated and detailed much as possible, w. footnotes and refs. Thou almost sound as if there's no need for evidence, making excuses for no documentation or testimony.


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# 470, jacques sheete says:Next New Comment
February 22, 2019 at 9:27 am GMT • 300 Words
@apollonian

So, do you or do you not agree that the Holodomor is/ was “Deep State” propaganda?

I brought up the subject merely intending to point out that there was at least one real holocaust, i.e., the one that killed victims in the Ukraine.

The counter argument as I understood it was that it never happened, that it was propaganda perpetrated by the “Deep State.”

Then someone introduced the concept that it never targeted the Ukrainians specifically. They insisted that’s what I meant when I never even thought of that and if I wrote that, I never intended to. To me they are a bunch of Walter Durantys because they wanted to sweep the incident under the rug. Yes, Duranty was referring to the “malnutrition” in “Russia” and not the Ukraine, I believe, but they’re all deniers of Stalin’s crimes just the same.

Which is it? Did the Holodomor happen or was it propaganda? You seem to be agreeing that it happened but that it was embellished for political reasons. Please be much more specific.

BTW. you don’t need to lecture me about things such as this.:

I say there ought to be evidence that can be pt’d out. There must be some documentation, and there ought to be some witness testimony too–it all ought to be calm (as possible) matter-of-fact.

As far as eyewitnesses are concerned, the bulk of them seem to have perished, including Gareth Jones who was “disappeared” for his reporting of it.There appear to be few witnesses unlike the multitude of “Holocaust” survivors. Any political motivation involving it seems to be to deny it. Why would the “Deep State” want to magnify its ally’s crimes?

As far as “documentation,” who would keep records and what sort of evidence would you accept?

Finally, who would have an interest in sweeping it under the rug, and why? Did you see the vid of Abe Foxman telling Ukrainian leaders to downplay the Holodomor? Is the report fake too?

This is all relevant because it shows how our masters operate.