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Wednesday, March 27, 2013

Sandy Hook Investigation In Hist. Context: Truth vs. lies?--or Pharisaic "good vs. evil"?

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Sandy Hook Investigation In Context Of Cyclic History & Sociologic Conditions
(Apollonian, 27 Mar 13)

Hello comrades: interesting discussion, truly (see link, above).  But let's sum up things for our over-all investigation: I think we're really on to an explosive particular for the powers, and that's the existence or not of the Lanzas--and note this is not complex thing for folks to grasp--surely the WEAKEST pt. for the concoction of this farce, even w. all the practice drills, etc., etc.

Too bad there's no genuine press to help investigate and get word out--thank goodness for the I-net, eh?  Thus complexity and babble will attempt to cover-up this simple little detail which is yet most telling.

Note basically we're up against CRIMINALS, pure and simple--these are a bunch of psychopaths who are colluding, hence satanists as they're dedicated to LIES (Gosp. JOHN 8:44) and HUBRIS, as I've always noted.  They think they're like God, capable of creating reality--so it's really just a sort of huge, colluding SUBJECTIVISM they're imposing upon folks, esp. by means of the mass-corp. "news"-media.

Observe then the top criminal enterprise is NECESSARILY the US Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) COUNTERFEITING scam--this is the topmost scam possible or conceivable which then controls ALL other criminality of organized nature--the ONLY other criminality possible is of the petty, individual sort which the masterminds don't care too much about.

Under-lying this topmost criminal enterprise (the Fed, again) could only be ABSTRACT (philosophic-type) things which are, by nature, complex and speculative, and which is argued over by all and many so often, easily manipulated and tweaked so as to lead people astray and down false-paths.

Yet, I do think it's useful, still, to note the great Christian precept of TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 14:6) vs. lies (8:44).  This (Christian) concept is the basic abstract which the anti-Christs thereupon attempt to confusing by means of their heresies, specifically, by replacing the necessarily topmost precept of TRUTH w. subjectivist "good-evil" (Pharisaism and Pelagian heresy--look it up).

Thus u see, Truth, necessarily founded upon the objective reality (for criterion) renders the DETERMINIST course of things according to strict cause-effect--there is no perfectly "free" will, hence no "good-evil."  We're all sinners, as St. Paul notes, and no "free" will will EVER change that.

Thus things follow a determinist, hence CYCLIC course, according to Spengler's "Decline of the West," whence an original heroic generation (as of American Revolution) begets (eventually) a corrupt generation as we observe presently, addicted to TV, porno, football-games--but esp., over-all, this HUBRISTIC pretense to "good-evil," as we observe.  And u all can see just how abstract our analysis has already become.

Thus children insist upon this "good-evil" delusion as they've been sooooo intensively programmed, thus manipulated, and there's NO solution to this but for the killling-off of the excess weaklings and losers in "Decline of the West," aforementioned--such is the DETERMINIST CYCLIC course of things.

Hence, to remove fm this abstract discussion, so speculative, we can for practical purposes just go-back to that top criminal enterprise, the Fed COUNTERFEITING as the nub of the problem which everyone can agree upon, it being verifiable by means of simple perception, not abstract or speculative.

And once again, note the simplicity of the greatest immediate problem for criminals of Sandy Hook farce--the existence/reality of the Lanzas--this is where we can still all agree and focus upon, which the powers are now desperately wiggling and squirming to get folks to avoid.  Don't forget Adam's death cert. is dated 13 Dec 12.

How can ANYTHING get done if the stinking, corrupt judge and police CONTINUE to suppress evidence and info, and the corrupt bureaucrats continue to conceal the death certificates?--even in defiance of letter of law--TOTALLY obstructing justice--and NO ONE among the establishment says anything about this gross, putrid corruption in everyone's face.


lynne03121:23 pm on March 27, 2013Permalink

This is a bit O/T but in line with what you keep saying about truth – the wrongful conviction cases I have researched all have corrupt prosecutors who throw a bunch of stuff out there before the jury, be it character assassination, bribing witnesses to commit perjury or bullying them to testify the way they need them to, police lie, the biased corrupt judge always sides with the State, lots of people talking about how wonderful the victim was, etc. (Police just want to solve the case and don’t care about finding the correct perpetrator.) All of this obfuscates the TRUTH, the facts. Plain and simple – facts. The jurors believe what is presented to them, don’t demand truth and facts and believe they are doing the “right” thing by always siding with the State, put the bad guy away. Family is happy, community feels safe…..BUT what about the fact that the truth wasn’t revealed? The innocent is locked up and the guilty remains free to commit more crimes.

I see the same thing but on a different scale with Sandy Hook, 9/11, OKC, etc. They throw a bunch of stuff out there, people crying, close community, lots of touching photos….BUT what about the truth? Why isn’t everyone demanding facts and truth?! I guess this is now the norm in our society.


Agreed, good editor: note the (Spenglerian) CYCLIC course of hist. indicates there's not a lot that can be done by mere individuals--eventually we can only hope to survive and endure, the lucky ones finally "inheriting" the earth--often after everyone else has killed one another off.

That's why I encourage folks for simple rationalist Christian principle of TRUTH above all/anything else--esp. hereticalist "good-evil" which ALWAYS fascinates the childish masses who prevail and dominate.  For at certain pt. these childish sort are just tooooooooooo over-populated and ONLY war, famine, etc., can remove them--the sad truth we must face.

Thus I pt. to early 4th cent. Roman empire, so moribund at the time, like our own presently, revived and resuscitated, at least briefly, by heroic St. Constantine the Great.
Hence u see the overwhelming, immediate sociologic problem--the "Judeo-Christian" (JC--see and for expo/ref.) hereticalists who dominate and leverage all the rest of the confused, dis-united, half-baked "Christians," so-called--this is primary KEY, I submit, sociologically, psychologically.


Anonymous 1:51 pm on March 27, 2013Permalink

Apollo: Priority one- location, location, location. You also mention the Roman Empire and its history… aren’t you putting an awful lot of weight in the history as it has been passed? I do not believe most of what I learned in school. I do believe that over centuries and generations, those that are left standing change history so the cycle will continue with the next herd of enslaved ‘useless eaters’. The history you point to is only relevant if it is indeed TRUTH. I don’t believe it is. How do you believe SH will go down in history? How will it be recorded? How is Kent State taught in our schools? History is a tricky thing… especially when it’s rolled out by the likes of Beck and Jones.

lynne03121:55 pm on March 27, 2013Permalink

It’s interesting. I homeschool my kids and I often struggle with how best to teach them history because I’m so distrustful of what we’ve been taught. I’ve decided to wait for them to get a bit older (at least my younger one) and I’m going to use Tom Woods’ History program.


Yes anon: u're right--one can't be too careful for quality of knowledge, indubitably, as u say--gotta go by what u know best.  Thus I studied philosophy for HOW we know (called "epistemology").  History is then application, "philosophy teaching by example"--thus hist. is (a) determined, (b) CYCLIC.  Romans are excellent example to learn fm.

Sandy Hook farce?--ho ho ho--it will go down as huge OVER-reaching by powers who became so smug w. their pretended ability to push a version of reality which was not swallowed by the people--one of the virtues of this blog, by the way.

All we gotta do is to keep pressing for publication of the info and evidence and insist on concrete ID of the Lanzas--everything else will fall into place if we do things right.


Anonymous 2:05 pm on March 27, 2013Permalink

I wholeheartedly support educating your own- kudos to you. But as we’ve agreed, history IS a tricky thing. I always use the event of the revolutionary war. Can we truly believe that a bunch of rougue imports from across the world, mostly criminals and indegents, were able to forge steel in this new and wild land and manufacture the weapons they used to defeat the mighty Brittish all the while they were defending themselves from the savage Indians (the true and rightful owners of this land- (we are all immigrants)? Seems a bit of a reach, at least for me. The civil war was funded by the bankers- both sides! It didn’t matter to them which side won, just that we fought and killed each other. In the end, they were able to free many ‘slaves’ (most of which were Irish, btw) and instill the corporate mantra. The important part here is that in all of history, it is tainted because the bankers fund both sides and re-write their version to be passed on to another generation to perpetuate the tales.


Well anon: first thing to be done regarding hist. is to attempt to try to make serious, honest effort to understanding, which begins, I submit, to breaking things down to specific items.  Some things then can be well-understood, surely.

I totally disagree Indians are rightful owners--certainly not of ALL the land, which was bargained-for and righteously purchased by the eventual conquerors.

Regarding war for Southern independence, note the US Constitution was horribly perverted, the states-rights partisans tragically losing--which was surely most desired by the bankers for consolidation of the central gov. over/against the states, cent. gov. of Lincoln and "radicals" trampling things miserably.


Anonymous 2:37 pm on March 27, 2013Permalink

Thanks for that lynne but I understand as I insist on the anon. title (like it matters…) But it may be partly on my end… I don’t even get cell service here. As I recently commented to apollo; location, location, location. DSL may be quick but one has to choose what’s important and speedy internet simply isn’t a priority to me.

Apollo: on the Indians, we will have to disagree on your interpretation of history. “Bargained for”? You refer to the many treaties that were negotiated and then ignored by those ‘conquerors’? No- what you speak of is no different than our presence in Syria or Iraq or in Africa. It’s all the same story, different day/century/people. It’s all bankers who lie and change history so they can do it all over again once the masses forget the true events and are convinced to give up their FREE WILL under the guise of a perverse and fabricated tale.


Well anon: note I try NOT NOT NOT to "interpret"--I make best effort to UNDERSTAND.  I guess it goes to philosophic basics, once again, and for that, note life is basically WAR and struggle, according to Homer, Plato, St. Augustine, Machiavelli, Hobbes, Darwin, Spencer, Nietzsche, et al.

Thus the course of hist. indicates corrupted masses "going along" w. the HUBRIS of a perfectly "free" will by which they can change and create reality in God-like fashion and esp. on false pretext of "good-evil"--and this course is demonstrated quite well, I submit, in the CYCLIC course we observe in the fall of the ancient world in Roman corruption, the long, slow revival to Renaissance to present hubristic corruption of "Agenda 21" genocide upon false pretext of "global-warming" lies obsessively, psychopathically pushed by satanists, always upon subjectivist "good-evil" and God-like "free" will.

The battle is btwn Truth vs. lies paradigm and such subjectivism as child's "good-evil" and hubristic "free" will.  We're all sinners, as I noted, and no one is "evil"--just insane w. hubris of godly "free" will, as I note.

U insist upon subjectivism ("good-evil"); I hold to Christian truth of the objective (hence determined) reality.


Anonymous 3:20 pm on March 27, 2013Permalink

I hear your stance and understand what you premise your knowledge on. However, there are problems from whithin your very hypothesis. Homer, Plato, et. al., are very convenient works in that they perpetuate the futility of human kind to simply get along and be masters of our own destiny. History tells us that human-kind is incapable of it and those you reference substantiate those thoughts. I want to be perfectly clear in what I’m about to say; I am a believer in My Creator- I am not an athiest or other non-Christian type BUT: certainly you are aware that the Bible as we know it was supposedly writtten by hebrews- one would assume in their native language.

Then at some point, it was translated in to Latin. Then the Greeks got a hold of it and translated the once hebrew, now latin in to Greek. There are great differences between the King James versions of the text and other denominational Christian texts. It is NOT a consistent story. However, there are general ‘tales’, if you will, that follow throghout evvery religion. Even the Quran contains many of the same Atom and Eve (yes… atom, if you truly go way back in to philosophical study) tales. Then you have the issue of each denomination taking those ‘tales’ and putting their own spin on them (some believe the apple was the tree of knowledge, others believe it was an apple in a God-given garden). Mythology, although I will not elaborate on its truisms here, has comparable tales that cooborate many religious beliefs.

So, again, it comes down to history and what can be believed. I would laugh in Plato’s face and argue that, if given the opportunity for man to exert his FREE WILL, human kind could manage without interference from the overseer banker. That the rise and fall of all civilization is a direct result of peoples giving up their FREE WILL. And that FREE WILL can only apply if one operatees on TRUTHS, which, as exemplified by history, has not yet been allowed to manifest itself. Just sayin’…

As an example, and as applicable this time of year, the Passover and how that story has been passed. The story goes that in order to save their eldest sons, the people had to smear sacrificial blood upon their dwellings so the ‘evil’ would pass over them and spare their eldest son. What isn’t included in the story is where that ‘special blood’ came from. As with Abraham and many others in the flow of biblical history, the sacrifice was indeed their eldest son.. So- on it’s face, the story tells of the people sacrificing their sons to save their sacrificed sons. It’s a double-entondra (sp?) of a completely mind-bending concept and I would submit, is interpreted from Hebrew to Latin to Greek, to English to be just that by design. I believe these stories happened to the people’s of those times. It is the circumstance that it left out of the equation that allows for the complete telling of the story. Just like SH.


lynne03123:26 pm on March 27, 2013Permalink

Maybe you two could take this discussion offline? Though interesting, it’s getting far too off topic.


 Anonymous 3:30 pm on March 27, 2013Permalink

I did reference SH I agree. I simply feel it’s important for us to not rely on history that is written by those that portend to be our masters… like the never-ending new stories out of Newtown. “If you say it enough times, it must be true.”.

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