Currency collapsing, ZOG oligarchs MUST try to diverting the people in war....

Below-copied by ap first published at http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/showthread.php?10428-Generational-Dynamics-World-View&p=506173#post506173


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Oligarchs Want To Divert People's Attn From Economic Collapse

(Apollonian, 1 Jul 14)

Ok, fair question (see below-copied)--the only honest nation is Iran, I think.  USA is gross, horrific, satanic Jew-run/controlled empire, mass-murdering people, as in Iraq, having killed over a million, I understand.  Russia is also quite a bit involved in the Council on Foreign Relations/Trilateralist/Bilderberg conspiracy, playing a role, but they must realize they could well be victimized by the master-criminals of USA.  So it's much a charade being played by USA and Russia, Russians quite nervous that they're not double-crossed.

See, the surest factor to watch and keep eye on is collapsing of global economy, including esp. USA, the various fiat-currencies horrifically inflated and collapsing--so, they (the criminals at the top) will need something for diversion against the people who are liable to revolt and start offing the scum, French-rev. -like.

And it's typical thing for oligarchs to starting wars to divert fm economic troubles.  It's tough to see any sure out-come, though.

So what I'm hoping is that as currency collapses the heretofore too-willing enforcers (like the berserk cops we so often hear about lately) in USA will see oligarchs they work for are satanic scum, even the enforcers not able now to feeding their own families, etc.  Then the oligarchs themselves must begin to falling-out w. one another upon principle of no-honor-among-thieves.

Personally, I pray for a St. Constantine the Great figure to arise, reviving the old commonwealth, but it might not be too likely, and hence, by means of states-rights and nullification, perhaps significant chunks of old USA could well be saved, rights of the naturally dominant white race restored, for example--which doesn't actually require anything terribly dramatic or drastic, but merely the same old rule-of-law in accord w. Constitution, sanctity-of-contract, etc.--which in fact would actually benefit all races and peoples--except Jews, of course, who will have to be dealt with, interned, separated by sex, and watched carefully as they die out.

History must put paid to Judaism, and generations hence must be able to look-back and see Jews passed fm existence due to their hatred of humanity, that hatred reciprocated in justice, the Jews then expired like the dodo bird.  And naturally, the allies of the Jews will have to be dealt-with similarly, the homosexuals and phony "Christians" called "Judeo-Christians" (JCs).  In fact, in order to deal w. Jews, JCs will have to be treated first, Christianity properly defined and understood.  I hope this begins to answer ur question.


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Originally Posted by Cynic Hero '86

Ok, apollonian simple question, what is your opinion of the contest between the US, Russia, and Iran.

Helpless moralists/Pharisaists (subjectivists) can't figure out what reality is, how it works--and they're sooooooo self-righteous about it, too....

Below-copied by ap first published at http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/showthread.php?11348-How-seriously-do-you-take-the-theory-Are-you-basing-life-decisions-on-it&p=506164&posted=1#post506164


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4T Doesn't Seem To Have Helped For "Wonkette"--Such A Tragedy

(Apollonian, 1 July 14)

Wonkette: it's not surprising someone of ur sort is so much "at sea" for simple facts of reality, eh?  Currency-collapse is not only absolute CERTAINTY, it's going on right this very instant--of course u're oblivious, aren't u?--along w. much else of reality.  Currency-collapse is THE PLAN, but of course, u wouldn't know anything about that either, eh?

"Epidemic" wouldn't be a problem if we didn't have a traitor gov. deliberately destroying the currency, terrorizing the people, fostering illegal invasion of the country, trying to dis-arm the people, etc.

"Terrorist attack"?--that is happening, and has already happened, and it's always done by our own gov. (like 9/11) and their allies in other countries, but u're not alert to the facts which mere facts u don't consider important, do u?  Don't look now, but the "ISIS" people now over-running Iraq were armed by US and NATO--w. modern "stinger" missiles which will soon be used shooting-down commercial airliners in Europe and USA whence traitor gov. will demand even more powers for their police-state--but u wouldn't know anything about that, of course.

"Yellowstone blowing"?--even that wouldn't be so bad if we had a decent, non-traitor, gov., but if Yellowstone did blow, u can be sure traitor gov. will demand even more police-state powers.

"Who knows what that catastrophe will be?"--for someone like urself, it doesn't really matter, as u're perfectly set-up to being a victim, no matter what.  4T theory doesn't seem to have helped someone like u (or much of anyone, actually)--it's rather something more like "dungeons and dragons"-type wonder-world whence u can socialize w. others of ur similar sort of smug, moralistic mentality.  Aren't u happy?--isn't 4T such fun?

------------------------------above by ap in response to below-copied-----------------------------


[QUOTE=The Wonkette;506149]Has anyone watched Doomsday Preppers on teevee? One of the problems with that show is that the Preppers are preparing for a particular catastrophe. But who knows that the catastrophe will be. Will someone's extensive preps in riding out a currency collapse help if the problem is an epidemic, a terrorist attach on a nuclear reactor, or Yellowstone blowing?[/QUOTE]

Here's exciting conversation w. a lesbian, loaded for bear, ho ho ho ho

Below-copied essay by ap first published at [url]http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/showthread.php?11313-Millennials-and-racism&p=506097#post506097[/url]

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Kepi Gets A Little Un-Hinged, We See

(Apollonian, 30 Jun 14)

 Kepi, my dearest, most precious one: u certainly do babble, scream, and rage hysterically, don't u?--are u ANOTHER homosexual?--not that they're bad, though they/you sure do get excited over the simplest things, don't u?--like simply understanding a simple thing like racism which is LOYALTY by dictionary definition, yes?


 Or did u forget the discussion was regarding racism? Now then, once again: isn't loyalty a virtue?--if it isn't, pls explain, by all means. And how is having no emotional connection to one's race (one's extended family) any sort of advancement?--how could this possibly be induced but by ridiculously contrived means?


 And then there's the simple logical issue which u overlook in all ur raging, frantic, screaming and hysteria: isn't this loyalty AXIOMATIC given it's either-or, loyalty to mixed or non-mixed race?--one's own or another? Do u begin to get what it is we're talking about here?


 Now Kepi, u dear, little sweetie-pie, try to compose urself, calm-down, wipe the spittle off ur face and frothing fm ur mouth, and try to speak to the issue--it's really pretty simple, I assure u.


 U have a little child?--really?--did u adopt?--or is it possible u might have given birth? Seriously Kepi, dearest, I think u're a little too given to hysterical outbursts and screaming episodes to be fit to care properly for a child, do u think?


--------------------above by ap in response to below by dear "Kepi"--------------


[QUOTE=apollonian;506064]Gosh Kepi, dear, but if u have some objection, don't u think a rational person could make an argument?--I take it u don't have much confidence in ur ability to present a rational arg., eh? Otherwise, I think u're obviously a top genius, without any doubt whatsoever.[/QUOTE]

Really, dude? You want the long form on why you're a living breathing pile of human excrement? Fine.


 First off, you're making the jump from the studies that show that small children generally hold racial prejudices and prefer their own race. You then jump to the conclusion that therefore this must be generic, and therefore natural. But studies show that mixed race children do not possess this line of thought. Now, you may say that clearly the parents of mixed race children do not possess this trait, however, no "mixed race" genetic commonalities have been found. This means that the behavior is, therefore, learned instinctually.


 Now you may consider that natural, but your intrinsic belief that "natural" is therefore good, is doubly stupid. There's a not of stuff kids believe that is normative and naturally occurring that is also patently stupid. I have a two year-old. She doesn't understand where and when to appropriately go to the bathroom. Kids are stupid. They're new, they have an excuse. You're not. You're just an idiot.


 History shows that we are all already made up of mixing tribes. For instance I have Norman heritage. Norman's are made up of a mixing between Vikings, Alans, and Huns who all decided to take a stab at ransacking the French. Each of these people travelled outside of their own tribes and began inhabiting new territory and began breeding with other people's. This has been a normative behavior amongst people for as long as history. Remember, there was a time when people existed as city states, and believed that was their affiliation. We grew past that point in history because people interacted enough between cultures enough through conquest and trade to see eachother as mutually linked. So pretty much the entire course of human history is opposed to your poor reasoning as well. That's because you're an idiot.


 Lastly, you may say "I'm not saying what's natural is good, just that you can't fight it", and ignore that this is neither genetic, nor natural, merely normative under circumstances of perpetuation... Well, we fight our own natural urges all the time for the greater good. Unlike racism, paedophilia is genetically linked. That doesn't make it okay. Murder has been going on for thousands of years, but we've successfully mitigated the problem over the past few thousand years. Just because something is normative doesn't mean that the norms don't change to better suit society at a later date. In fact, a terrific definition of society is a force that causes you to suppress normative and even natural orders in order to contribute to a greater good. It's the force that keeps you from pulling out a gun and firing into rush hour traffic because you know that the results will ultimately be better if you just wait it out. But you're an idiot, so I don't suspect you really understand that yet. You know. Because you're an idiot.


 For the rest of us, though, the reality is that life is a constant series of interactions wherein we suppress our most basic desires for a better outcome for everyone, and learn means by which we can live more successfully though a series of trials and errors. That's what productive people do. You clearly aren't productive, so you should probably remove your genitals with whatever blade you've managed make by banging two rocks together, then eat them, because the rest of humanity would really appreciate it if you didn't accidentally breed.

Rationalism, Christianity actually clarifies things quite a good deal....

Below-copied by ap first published at http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/showthread.php?3886-The-Alternating-Paradigm-Theory-(APT)&p=506061#post506061


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Mariner's Question Answered: Aristotle Vs. Plato Plotted In Detail & Demonstrated For Sociology, Etc.

(Apollonian, 30 Jun 14)

Mariner (see below-copied): u're right, it is abstract, but still quite valid and discernible--so we simply convert to more practical symbology, as it were.  Thus Aristotelians who heed to an objective reality equate, generally, to dear Christianity, Christ being symbol for TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH above all/any other precepts (including love, peace, "faith," or "good," Gosp. JOHN 14:6) against lies (JOHN 8:44).  Note then u can't have truth without an objective reality for reference/premise.  And lies are simply subjectivist concoctions pretending to objectivity, eh?--at least that's one understanding.

National socialism was desperate, half-baked attempt to opposing the bolsheviki--socialism seemed all the rage at the moment, so it was taken and stylized to oppose the international, bolshevik sort--which interestingly was totally funded and subsidized by the Western bankers, according to Antony C. Sutton and others.  I agree nat. soc. did rather resemble Zionism, at least in some ways, but that wasn't necessarily deliberate.

"Creolization" (whatever that is--presumably ur word for race-mixing/bastardization) doesn't need more than the attitudinal anti-pathy it already has.  And sorry, but I don't care about Jews--they'll have to look out for themselves, as they've been doing, mass-murdering the Palestinians and Arabs and others--pay-backs are always tough, eh?  Their "doctrine"?--just lies and prop. which doesn't impress too many people nowadays--in fact, less and less, it seems.

Mariner: u just gotta accept reality, LIFE IS WAR and struggle, noted by all the great thinkers, Homer, Plato, St. Augustine, Machiavelli, Hobbes--not only Darwin who merely synthesized the facts w. biology.


-----------------------------above by ap in response to below-copied--------------------------


Originally Posted by Anc' Mariner

Hm. Your whole construct of "Platonists vs Aristotelians" is totally abstract. How do you objectively determine which camp a person is even in.

As far as tribe mixing. The Jewish people have hardly mixed at all in 3000 years, and even their worst modern enemies in Europe (the National Socialists) believed they were a superior race, albeit one in a Darwinian struggle for dominance with the non-Jewish Germanics. The big difference is in the ethos. Some people make really good attorneys, physicians, mathematicians, analysts, etc. And some people make really good fighters (like the Prussians). Both might be capable of advanced cultivation and technology (especially if they work together instead of stupidly/pointlessly acting against each other).

One could argue that National Socialism was like a mirror of political Zionism. Both are partly secular and partly religious (the NS had their own strange but very modern form of quasi religion). But both focused on joining together as a newly unified people and protecting their kinfolk - because both believed they had a divine/evolutionary mission connected to unique moral qualities embodied in their collective ethos.

Even Herzl thought the Jewish people would get a strange kind of help. Some disaffected Prussian guy named Kingscourt pops up in Altneuland, his novel about Zionism.

For the West at large, mixture and Creolization are just the reality. If you object to it, you need more than a 'tude. You need a strategy. A collective strategy that doesn't involve hurting the Jewish people. Their doctrine says they are protected. Maybe others are also protected in a similar way too for synergistic/complementary reasons. Harming people like that is an existential mistake. A Darwinian mistake that tends to backfire in a bad way.

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Christian Revolution Of St. Constantine, Nullification, Secession: Necessary Resort Of People

(Apollonian, 30 Jun 14)

I quite agree w. this, but must reject all the rest of ur piece.  It rather seems mixing races is ur end-all and be-all, w. which I'd venture very, very few would agree.  For a mixed-race is a conquered race, a race of bastards, if u will--and no one wants this.  So guess again, mariner.

I'd rather say we're merely waiting for another St. Constantine the Great to arise, leading the rational people, though momentarily dis-united, against the mad idealists and Platonists/moralists who've now succeeded in destroying so much of the world we used to know.

Thus among the master-minds of Council on Foreign Relations/Trilateralists/Bilderbergers we await the inevitable falling-out, there being "no honor among thieves."  And we note there seems to be some rivalry/opposition among the conspirators btwn one faction of "leftists," led nominally by Obama, vs. the neo-con supporters of Israel, there being yet a third faction behind such as Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura, and Alex Jones (InfoWars.com).

Meantime the people of USA must make use of "nullification" of the central Federal gov. and states-rights.

gun-control is simply TREASON, attempted over-throw of Constitution and 2nd amendment--stupid scum better get wise....

Below essay by ap first published at http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/showthread.php?11289-What-Would-Cause-Real-Gun-Control-Legislation-And-Enforcement/page2

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Traitors Need To Face-Up To Reality: Treason Never Prospers

(Apollonian, 30 Jun 14)

Comrades: u need to face-up to fact that ONLY the people have rights, right to self-defense, hence right to own and possess fire-arms, and the purpose/reasoning for this is not to defend against random crime or duck-hunting--IT'S TO OVER-THROW A TYRANNIC GOV.--get it?

We the people are BOSS, suckas--and we have all the rights, including being armed and defending--it's a natural right, following in reason, and it includes anyone/everyone, including felons and some otherwise, partial nut-cases too, PERIOD.  For practical purposes though, people don't complain when Constitution is violated in case of felons and nutters, as nutters rather strain reason, as we note.

For observe: how in reason can any part of people be dis-armed by any other part?--impossible, inconceivable--it's then simply war conducted by some against others, and the law and commonwealth are destroyed thereby.

And observe for all of u who want to dis-arm the people and overthrow US Constitution and 2nd amendment--U'RE TRAITORS, and penalty for treason is grim stuff--take care for what u imagine u want to doing.

And if u merely do a little ck-ing, u find 9/11 was inside job, much by MOSSAD and Israelis, along w. neo-cons and suck-alongs here in US, including CIA and FBI and others.  Newtown (Sandy Hook) was total farce, no one killed, same w. so-called Bost. Marathon "bombing" of little over yr ago--and there've been numerous other farces since then, Elliot Rodger being one of the latest and most comical.  We're up against conspirators, these being in favor of world gov. and agenda-21 genocide, etc.

Fact is gun-control encourages and increases crime; gun-ownership and being armed lessens and decreases crime, as the facts show quite plainly.

But in conclusion, I merely refer back to the Constitution which some of u are trying to overthrow (for ur gun-control delusions)--don't forget: pay-backs is son-of-a-gun, suckas--u've been warned.  Don't be surprised when hammer drops.

Conspiracy theory is necessary subject of all/any general history and sociology, never doubt....

Below by ap first published at http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/showthread.php?3886-The-Alternating-Paradigm-Theory-(APT)&p=506005#post506005


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Place Of Conspiracy Theory--Must Be Clear For Sociology, History

(Apollonian, 29 Jun 14)

JDW (see below-copied): thanks again for ur notes.  See, I'm great Spengler enthusiast/defender/expositor, and I'm simply trying to see what fourth turning stuff can add--so far I don't really see anything, though I appreciate ur comments and observations.  Note u have much to prove and/or demonstrate and it's great mistake/error for u to think it's established--and again, don't doubt I much appreciate ur courage for attempting to doing so.

Fourth turning sociology depends on history, and the history for it, as I see it understood on this forum, seems to be very weak indeed, same for the economic science/knowledge.

For don't forget the economic advancement of 19th century was hardly interrupted--so the "gilded age" economic advancement wasn't any great change or extra-ordinary.  And slavery was never anything to be "atoned for"--abolitionists very small minority at any time.  Both before and after "Civil war" the blacks were seen as competition for the white working class--there being considerable number of whites in that class, including many, many farmers who didn't have it too terribly good regarding comforts of life. The "awakenings," transcendental and missionary, I submit, u over-rate.

U bring up Conspiracy theory, very good--for that's the pt. to things historical and sociologic, I'd say--indeed, it's the pt. (quite arguably) to Spengler's "Decline of the West": eventually society/culture is corrupted and collapses as a criminal class takes control, as we see presently.

JDW: don't forget Jefferson's Dec. of Independence was/is literal consp. theory--doubt it?--just read it.  The founders extensively discussed conspiracy of the British crown and other, associated interests--which still exist to this very day.  Note these very same interests (a) co-opted the Americans, in accord w. Cecil Rhodes ("Rhodes Scholarships"), and (b) then collaborated to put in place the Bolsheviks in Russia--and these facts are indisputable and actually quite well-known.

Christian New Test. is consp. theory, regarding Pharisees & Sadducees who hated and strive to murder TRUTH (Christ)--which inexorably rises again (triumphant resurrection).  The Christian sociologic theory is TRUTH (Christ) in its dialectic and conflict w. Lies (Gosp. JOHN 8:44).  Don't doubt or forget the great value of Christian literary aesthetics which teaches a great moral for us to this very day, Christianity enhancing and replacing the moral previously taught by Homer, Greeks/Romans having then adopted Christian aesthetic, handing it down to us.  Further, observe Book of Revelations gives a lively picture of a cyclic culmination.

Observe, simply as slight details, Martin Luther King was assassinated by gov. conspiracy, this being official, formal finding of a jury verdict.  JFK assassination in broad daylight was another conspiracy which 90% or so of people grasp in various polls reported, the Warren report notorious fraud.  RFK was another well-known conspiracy.  Gulf of Tonkin "incident" was gov. conspiratorial fraud to start a horrific war.

So discussion of consp. theory is NECESSARY, and without it all sociology or history is empty and useless--we only need find an artistic manner, I guess, and as u seem to indicate, for proper discussion, and I do appreciate ur emphasis for delicacy.  And u do seem to be sturdy enough for ur ability to so discuss--it's much why I appreciate ur notes and commentary.

More specifically, aside fm Jeff. and Dec. of Independence, observe Jeff's great conflict w. Hamilton over the Bank of US (BUS) issue--this is absolutely fundamental and exists to this day, US Federal Reserve Bank ("Fed") being direct descendent of BUS--note it's getting ready to collapse, in much same fashion as great hyper-inflation of Weimar Germany--and it's why powers (Council on Foreign Relations [CFR] and Trilateralists) behind the Fed are trying to start wars in Syria, Iran, and now Ukraine, as we see.

So u see JDW: it would be terrible if fourth turning actually distracted/diverted us fm these most basic facts for sociology and history, including esp. consp. theory.  Fourth turning is USELESS if it can't tell us anything about this conspiracy issue and circumstances.

Note Jefferson vs. Hamilton was taken-up by ideologic followers, Andrew Jackson vs. Henry Clay for the second BUS, the mass-murderer, Lincoln, himself then a follower of his idol, Clay--and that was the end of the great USA founded upon Aristotelian, Enlightenment REASON, ind. freedom, natural rights, etc., definitive beginning of world gov., imperialist dictatorship, League of Nations, and now UN.  Of course the anti-rationalism of Rousseau and Kant preceded for undermining of that Enlightenment reason.

The crux, u see, is the Fed, like the BUS banks before, though slightly diff. for operational details, is simply a legalized COUNTERFEITING scam, allowed to literally create "money" (but actually just phony "money" called "fiat") which then allows powers behind it to owning and controlling everything--this is the FUNDAMENTAL conspiracy which has raged since before the beginning of USA, the Bank of England, for example, established in late 17th cent.

U ask, "The question is why the American people are unwilling or unable to hold him [Obama] more accountable."  Answer is simple--the same old "bread & circuses" of Roman times--aren't those football games on TV so neat?  I saw Capt. America movie the other day, too, and thought it was quite good for the theme of a traitorous gov. setting up weapons to terrorize the American people.

So JDW: don't doubt, once again, I much appreciate ur commentary, but the consp. theory issue is PRECISELY what must be discussed and what MUST be treated adequately by ur fourth turning material--that's why I continue to question u for the basics of ur theories here.  Fourth turning would be grossly counter-productive if it diverted fm this all-important conspiracy theme.  Thanks again for all ur advice.  A.

-------------------------above by ap in response to below-copied by "JDW"------------------------

[QUOTE=JDW;505950]First of all, whether society actually advanced is not the issue. The important thing is that by the Gilded age (with slavery out of the way), society was generally satisfied that there was nothing left to atone for.  In reality there was, as evidenced by our treatment of the American Indian, but the main issue of the Transcendental awakening was settled. By the time of the Missionary Awakening societies attention was turned toward advancement (that is, improving the general quality of life). Women reluctantly became involved in politics with the hope of voting on laws that would help the family. Child labor violations were seen as an embarrassment to America’s self image as a city on a hill. Americans believed in their country and wanted it to become the greatest it could possibly be.

Secondly, it has been my experience that these discussions break down quickly when one’s political opinions become too heated. If you bring conspiracy theory into this, you’re going to invite a lot of “noise” from both sides. I encourage you (just as I would anyone else) to keep your strong opinions close to your vest and try to discuss this theory as objectively as possible. I’ll even humor your concerns by saying, “Ok, if there is a shadow government that is pulling the strings, how are they using their knowledge of the generation cycle to accomplish their goal?” The point is, whether you believe in conspiracies or not, you can still have this discussion. Just don’t let it get too extreme.

Then you are discussing something other than the generation theory, correct?

Those are very strong statements, and most people on this forum will disagree with. However, what you are seeing is a 4T phenomenon, and I think Rahm Emanuel was onto it when he said “You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.” This is the U.S. Constitution’s third time going through a 4T (not counting the one that created it). In each case, the leader – whether Lincoln, FDR or Obama – felt at liberty to go around some of its provisions. In some of those cases, it could be justified by the emergency. I will agree that Obama has taken it to new level. The question is why the American people are unwilling or unable to hold him more accountable.

 I admit that it is the accident of history that Victoria’s reign coincided with two awakenings. I still think the term “Victorian morality” is the best descriptor of the period between Puritan and Boomer morality.

There are two main components of what we call “conservatism” today. The first is constitutionalism, which is what you are talking about. It is often linked to libertarianism, and neither has had any discernible success in this saeculum. (They are both “advancement” ideas.) The second is social conservatism, which is what I am talking about. Most social conservatives, if given a wish list, would want to see the end of abortion on demand; same-sex marriage; the banning of prayer in schools; unrestricted borders; the NEA, the EPA, and a few other things. This would essentially be a return to the 1950s, a time when America was void of moral vision. The Boomer Consciousness Revolution would happen all over again![/QUOTE]

History should be seen fm pt. of view of honest, realistic frame-work....

Below-copied essay by ap first submitted at comments, http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/06/26/corporate-media-complicity-in-state-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-74407
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Mark Should Be More Realistic, Honest
(Apollonian, 28 Jun 14)

Mark (see below-copied fm Mark): Newsflash: humans are sinners--God made us that way.  I myself have been "morally perverted" for quite a long time--long as I can remember.  But I don't sweat it much as I observe everyone else is too.


And "racism"?--it's just loyalty, loyalty to people, ancestors, and culture, a virtue (ck any dictionary), long as it's kept within reason, like any other virtue.


And what's ur grounds for concluding so presumptuously that "American people have been conditioned...?"


Political values?--why not just speak for urself, eh?  After all, Homer taught that life sucks, and it would have been better not to have been born, but here we are to make the best of things.


Observe things are CYCLIC according to Oswald Spengler's "Decline of the West."  Thus folks start out as farmers observing reason and equality, but then w. success and "prosperity" a ruling class arises and there's "oppression"--until it gets too much and then the people are either exterminated or they rise-up and overthrow the oppressors and start doing their own oppression.  Such is life.


My own observation of present time is Jews and their collaborators rule, and we need more militant Christianity to overthrow these "oppressors."  Hence we people need merely understand the real Christianity to remove false "Christians" presently allied w. Jews and who support Israeli terror state--where all NSA info goes first, without any filtering by Americans, as we learn fm Snowden, et al.

-----------------above by ap in response to below-copied-------------------


Mark says:
 June 28, 2014 at 11:17 am 

The American people have been morally perverted by American power largely by sanitizing and denying our historical past, which has been covered up by historians and political and social scientists. This past history is now emerging into the mainstream truth consensus. It is illustrated by a recent book of a Harvard historian, Bernard Bailyn, who described the peopling of America in the 17th century in THE BARBAROUS YEARS.


The barbarism, which he details in horrifying page after page, consisted of homicidal racist imperialism. He states:


“There was never a time, over a half century of settlement, when there was not a racial conflict in one or another of the European colonies in coastal North America–not only random killings on isolated border lands and deadly attacks by ruthless traders, but concerted wars of devastation different from the precontact Indians wars and beyond the rules of civilized warfare…”


The British killing and horrifying tortures were conditioned by Cromwell’s massacres of the “wild Irish” in the English civil war, the Puritans consciously equating the American Indians with the Irish. The War on Terrorism, and the transformation of the American traditional political system into a despotism, is conditioned by the homicidal racism of these religious fanatics. US power has killed hundreds of thousands of dark skinned Muslims to steal their oil and other collective and personal property and power.


The American people have been conditioned by American power to support this homicidal racist imperialism. Our political values are based on this oppression. We cannot regain control over American power, and unite effectively, unless we consciously understand how we have been conditioned to identify historically with American oppression.