Below-copied by ap first published at comments, http://americansjourney.blogspot.com...l#comment-form
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U continue to repeat urself (see below-copied), but let me pt.-out just a couple of theses of urs to which I object and consider to be miserably flawed.
(a) FM just above, "These have become intangibles which are further diluted by our propaganda machine which is at the heart of the destruction of what is good and right in the nation."
It isn't really so much the "prop. machine," for that could otherwise easily be counter-acted, but rather it's what underlies: that central-banking, legalized COUNTERFEITING which makes the prop. machine so powerful, effective, un-rivaled, as by any competition.
Federal Reserve Bank is private corp. holding a legalist monopoly for "creating credit," thus currency, given to those criminals totally illegally and un-Constitutionally by their flunkies holding office, taking an illegal "vote." For if u removed the prop. machine, but not the central-bank, the bank would instantly create the credit/currency to setting up another "prop. machine."
And I explained this (foregoing) to u NUMEROUS times, but u are PSYCHOTICALLY dense and impervious to pertinent facts. I wouldn't say u were stupid--rather psychotic--the only proper term for what is the obvious fact.
(b) "I've explained to you that the way for people to get along is to agree on certain values then stick to them - that is law."
U're talking about "CIVIL" law, and that, including the Constitution, is merely what rides the SURFACE of the culture, merely reflecting MORE BASIC values of the people and their concepts of the natural law foundation to it all.
And I explained to u, in detail, NUMEROUS times how and why Christian culture affects people's basic philosophy and sense of natural law, thus and thereby giving rise to that surface, civil law tradition, following Greek logic, Roman law, Germanic and then English Common law, etc.
And these, foregoing, are all dependent upon the OBJECTIVE reality and people's concept thereof, as I noted--opposed then by satanist and Jew SUBJECTIVISM which they excuse on premise of false, non-existent "good-evil," destroying the Christian foundation, hence the civil law and general rule-of-law, as I pt'd out, numerous times.
"Does a Jew get a free pass for speeding on the interstate?"--answer is yes he does, evermore, and including, evermore, his masonic and associated buddies. For the Jew mentality, religion, and culture encourages SUBJECTIVISM, etc., as I noted numerous times, explaining how and why, giving the instances fm history, etc.
(c) "Are you going to point me to a book that says I shouldn't believe my own lying eyes like people I personally know try to tell me?"
Well, science is logic applied, by definition, by which the sense-perception is ultimately used as criterion and hence verifying agent of any theoretic propositions, and proper scholarly referencing is designed for precisely this sort of scientific verification. Proper scholarship = science, and is consistent therewith. But u're right about there being a lot of fraud involved in scholarship, a lot of trickery often attempted, BUT the basic principle remains, and it only demands one be learned and skilled for scholarship, as for science.
It isn't acceptable that one pt.s to an instance of fraudulent scholarship and then uses that as excuse for moronic assertion without substantiation--which is what u do far too often.
(d) "If Christianity is the answer why is this place so f'd up?
"You can only blame others for your problems.
"My issues are very temporary. It is the failings of Christians that is to blame for the woes of America - if indeed they are to thank for this mess we have.
Being "Christian" doesn't give anyone a free pass for anything."
And I've actually agreed w. parts of ur above quote here, surely dozens of times, by now, in all the blogs and all my entries and postings therein.
'Christianity the answer'?--I've mostly referenced dear Christianity for its philosophy, and I've noted also the problems. For u to say that I simplistically just insist without further comment or discussion that 'Christianity is the answer' IS A LIE. For I've taken pains to pt. out the problems and the relation of Christian people and Christian philosophy properly understood.
I could go on, BUT I ALREADY HAVE DONE SO (going on, about the Christian issue), and I'm tired of ur stupid, PSYCHOTIC, obsessive lying about the Christian issue, buddy.
What u complain about regarding Christianity I submit is no diff. fm logic in general. People profess to being logical, and understanding it, but do they always follow it properly, sufficiently?--well, same goes for Christian principles, which I've demonstrated, showing, for example, how the Christian differs RADICALLY fm the Jew, which difference u continue to ignore--but that's not my fault.
So again, I consider I'm quite well justified for my complaints and observations upon ur evermore insufferable question-begging and lying--to the pt. of actual psychosis, which is what I was referring to, having specific examples as proof and demonstration.
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Anonymous Dec 30, 2015, 9:04:00 AM
Apsterian,
And finally - I don't like to comment on whether or not I've visited certain sites or not that may have been referenced because I try to avoid many online traps I've fallen for - and I've fallen for just about every one there is.
I've explained to you that the way for people to get along is to agree on certain values then stick to them - that is law. You want me to study the Talmud and other materials - where I don't think that is the way to the answer.
If someone is breaking the law it doesn't matter what their belief system is. That goes especially for traffic court. Does a Jew get a free pass for speeding on the interstate? Does a Christian get a free pass for speeding on the interstate?
There are unproductive suggestions at times -and I think reading about the evil ideas of monsters is OK once in a while - but my focus is on the preservatioin of what it is that makes America great.
These have become intangibles which are further diluted by our propaganda machine which is at the heart of the destruction of what is good and right in the nation.
When your own law enforcement seems to be part of the means of destruction of rights - why go around in circles "studying it?"
Chemtrails are another perfect example. I have seen them - have you? Are you going to point me to a book that says I shouldn't believe my own lying eyes like people I personally know try to tell me? Think about what I am saying - WHAT IS THERE TO QUOTE ANYMORE?
So for now these rants are about all there is to do - the contradictions available are where the truth is under present highly limited circumstances.
JR
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JR's Irrationality, Question-Begging, Noted, Detailed,
Analyzed
(Apollonian, 30 Dec 15)
(Apollonian, 30 Dec 15)
U continue to repeat urself (see below-copied), but let me pt.-out just a couple of theses of urs to which I object and consider to be miserably flawed.
(a) FM just above, "These have become intangibles which are further diluted by our propaganda machine which is at the heart of the destruction of what is good and right in the nation."
It isn't really so much the "prop. machine," for that could otherwise easily be counter-acted, but rather it's what underlies: that central-banking, legalized COUNTERFEITING which makes the prop. machine so powerful, effective, un-rivaled, as by any competition.
Federal Reserve Bank is private corp. holding a legalist monopoly for "creating credit," thus currency, given to those criminals totally illegally and un-Constitutionally by their flunkies holding office, taking an illegal "vote." For if u removed the prop. machine, but not the central-bank, the bank would instantly create the credit/currency to setting up another "prop. machine."
And I explained this (foregoing) to u NUMEROUS times, but u are PSYCHOTICALLY dense and impervious to pertinent facts. I wouldn't say u were stupid--rather psychotic--the only proper term for what is the obvious fact.
(b) "I've explained to you that the way for people to get along is to agree on certain values then stick to them - that is law."
U're talking about "CIVIL" law, and that, including the Constitution, is merely what rides the SURFACE of the culture, merely reflecting MORE BASIC values of the people and their concepts of the natural law foundation to it all.
And I explained to u, in detail, NUMEROUS times how and why Christian culture affects people's basic philosophy and sense of natural law, thus and thereby giving rise to that surface, civil law tradition, following Greek logic, Roman law, Germanic and then English Common law, etc.
And these, foregoing, are all dependent upon the OBJECTIVE reality and people's concept thereof, as I noted--opposed then by satanist and Jew SUBJECTIVISM which they excuse on premise of false, non-existent "good-evil," destroying the Christian foundation, hence the civil law and general rule-of-law, as I pt'd out, numerous times.
"Does a Jew get a free pass for speeding on the interstate?"--answer is yes he does, evermore, and including, evermore, his masonic and associated buddies. For the Jew mentality, religion, and culture encourages SUBJECTIVISM, etc., as I noted numerous times, explaining how and why, giving the instances fm history, etc.
(c) "Are you going to point me to a book that says I shouldn't believe my own lying eyes like people I personally know try to tell me?"
Well, science is logic applied, by definition, by which the sense-perception is ultimately used as criterion and hence verifying agent of any theoretic propositions, and proper scholarly referencing is designed for precisely this sort of scientific verification. Proper scholarship = science, and is consistent therewith. But u're right about there being a lot of fraud involved in scholarship, a lot of trickery often attempted, BUT the basic principle remains, and it only demands one be learned and skilled for scholarship, as for science.
It isn't acceptable that one pt.s to an instance of fraudulent scholarship and then uses that as excuse for moronic assertion without substantiation--which is what u do far too often.
(d) "If Christianity is the answer why is this place so f'd up?
"You can only blame others for your problems.
"My issues are very temporary. It is the failings of Christians that is to blame for the woes of America - if indeed they are to thank for this mess we have.
Being "Christian" doesn't give anyone a free pass for anything."
And I've actually agreed w. parts of ur above quote here, surely dozens of times, by now, in all the blogs and all my entries and postings therein.
'Christianity the answer'?--I've mostly referenced dear Christianity for its philosophy, and I've noted also the problems. For u to say that I simplistically just insist without further comment or discussion that 'Christianity is the answer' IS A LIE. For I've taken pains to pt. out the problems and the relation of Christian people and Christian philosophy properly understood.
I could go on, BUT I ALREADY HAVE DONE SO (going on, about the Christian issue), and I'm tired of ur stupid, PSYCHOTIC, obsessive lying about the Christian issue, buddy.
What u complain about regarding Christianity I submit is no diff. fm logic in general. People profess to being logical, and understanding it, but do they always follow it properly, sufficiently?--well, same goes for Christian principles, which I've demonstrated, showing, for example, how the Christian differs RADICALLY fm the Jew, which difference u continue to ignore--but that's not my fault.
So again, I consider I'm quite well justified for my complaints and observations upon ur evermore insufferable question-begging and lying--to the pt. of actual psychosis, which is what I was referring to, having specific examples as proof and demonstration.
---------------------------above by ap in response to below-copied---------------
Anonymous Dec 30, 2015, 9:04:00 AM
Apsterian,
And finally - I don't like to comment on whether or not I've visited certain sites or not that may have been referenced because I try to avoid many online traps I've fallen for - and I've fallen for just about every one there is.
I've explained to you that the way for people to get along is to agree on certain values then stick to them - that is law. You want me to study the Talmud and other materials - where I don't think that is the way to the answer.
If someone is breaking the law it doesn't matter what their belief system is. That goes especially for traffic court. Does a Jew get a free pass for speeding on the interstate? Does a Christian get a free pass for speeding on the interstate?
There are unproductive suggestions at times -and I think reading about the evil ideas of monsters is OK once in a while - but my focus is on the preservatioin of what it is that makes America great.
These have become intangibles which are further diluted by our propaganda machine which is at the heart of the destruction of what is good and right in the nation.
When your own law enforcement seems to be part of the means of destruction of rights - why go around in circles "studying it?"
Chemtrails are another perfect example. I have seen them - have you? Are you going to point me to a book that says I shouldn't believe my own lying eyes like people I personally know try to tell me? Think about what I am saying - WHAT IS THERE TO QUOTE ANYMORE?
So for now these rants are about all there is to do - the contradictions available are where the truth is under present highly limited circumstances.
JR
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