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Note Heat And Smoke Of Controversy Is Aside From Great Victory Of Clarity For Issue--COUNTERFEIT Conspiracy
(Apollonian, 12 Jul 10)
"Thorin": I'm elated, as I noted for my very first posting today, we've accomplished one thing un-questionably, this regarding the reality of conspiracy of the Fed--BUT FURTHER, regarding the EXACT nature of this conspiracy which is COUNTERFEITING. See http://www.wickedjester.com/cgi-bin/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10159&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=40.
For note there's otherwise a confusing element, that of the charging-of-interest ("usury") which is often injected to the COUNTERFEIT issue, in order to confuse the subject and problem.
For so many half-wits like to retort, "so what exactly is the 'conspiracy'"?--demanding (quite rightly, actually) we prove our assertions. Now the answer is clear and simple--Fed COUNTERFEITING conspiracy behind and beneath everything else.
For now there's no doubt as to (a) the criminal nature of the Fed, and (b) exactly what the specific criminal activity is, COUNTERFEITING, again--which even children too can understand.
And this COUNTERFEITING then is the practical essence, providing the impetus, the financing and funding for everything else conspiratorial.
The only thing now remaining for analsysis and speculation is the psychologic/cultural circumstances--like HOW did our people allow themselves to be snookered by these scum COUNTERFEITERS?--after the great and heroic struggles and warnings of Tom Jefferson and Andrew Jackson upon the subject.
Thus we can now bring to the fore the CYCLIC nature of history and sociology, as per "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler--how a culture begins with honest people with few and clear laws, who and which then become corrupt and perverted by means of false "prosperity" and Mammon god.
And there are yet other rather abstract items--like w. the moralistic revolution which took place at the turn fm Enlightenment era (1648-1789, roughly) to the late modern, by way of J.J. Rousseau, Immanual Kant, and the Eng. Utilitarians, who all resurrected the Pelagianistic hereticalism of "good-evil" founded upon perfectly "free" human will.
CONCLUSION: Thus it can be observed controversy may heat-up--but this is only really distraction/diversion if we're wise enough to heed to the real substance and virtue of the discussion in the first place--ISOLATION now, as we see, of the basic COUNTERFEITING problem/issue at the core of things conspiratorial. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian
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Well, I'd like to interject a moment and say that just because we can cross some roads we disagree on (pardon the pun) let us not get too testy. Remember, everyone has a right to their opinion; It is when they attempt to convert that they must give proof, or some logic as to why they are correct over another person. I prefer civility to angry rants, but we all have crossed that line from time to time, so I will not toss any stones.
I would also like to remind everybody that we are in the Rant section. I don't want to create personal conflict simply due to a different perspectives. We can agree to disagree, but I also understand the human nature of stepping down from the intellectual level and into the name-calling gutter (our egos make us do that whenever it gets assaulted or feels threatened).
Regardless of whether we agree or not, I say we debate facts and logical ideas, and not go too far with personal attacks. Of course I do remember one gentleman once stating: respect is always offered initially, if the other party proves to be unworthy of respect, then the wolf has the right to deal with them on what ever level they deserve. In short, try to be respectful, but if you start a fire, then be prepared to deal with the heat you bring upon yourself. Also, let us not get too angry when someone voices an opinion which differs too much from our own.
Even if you cannot bring others around to your way of thinking, you at least have the opportunity to try to understand why we/they disagree.This is yet another reason why we call this forum The Badlands, because quoting others wins no favor here. You most put out your own observations and back them up with logic, not censuses, number of contributing authors, number of books on the subject, or sheep polls. Your wit wins you arguments, not social proof. I love heated debate, but let us all try to keep things above board whenever possible.
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