"Christian Identity" is NOT NOT NOT Christian--must be scrutinized and examined

Below first submitted at comments, http://www.john-friend.net/2014/03/the-realist-report-andrew-carrington.html#comment-form

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"Christian Identity" Urgently Requires Scrutiny, Serious Examination

(Apollonian, 5 Mar 14)

John: note there's serious problem for "Christian Identity" and simple existence of fictional Israelites of the Bible--see the work of Mr. Thompson, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_L._Thompson.  There's no genuine archaeology to demonstrate Old Test. legends and myths.  Part of that problem is, for example, how supposed semitic speakers, suddenly become Indo-Aryan.

And this problem for basic existence of pretended Israelites is aside fm the real worth, meaning, and proper use of Biblic literature--for that's what it is, first and foremost, literature which tells a story, regardless of any genuine history.

And most important of all is literary meaning of New Test., the fundamental, essential source of the real Christianity--it is NOT just for some specific, isolated racial group.  For Christianity is about worship of TRUTH above all/any other precepts, including "faith," "love," "good," or peace, as ONLY way to Godly happiness (Gosp. JOHN 14:6), this against Jew lies (JOHN 8:44).


Further, note Christianity thus affirms TRUTH, hence the OBJECTIVE reality, as of Aristotle, this objectivity then serving as necessary CRITERION for such truth--against subjectivism of Jew lies, as in Talmud, the interpretation (Gemara) of an interpretation (Mishnah) of the Torah.  New Test. literature is important cultural foundation no less than Greek Homeric Iliad and Odyssey--it must be appreciated like Homer's works.


My pt. then is once u realize and appreciate the real, basic literature, u quickly see it has NOTHING to do w. any particular race--it truly is something, magnificent literature, for all people, all humans qua humans, rational creatures.


Hence rational people must simply think and be rational--heeding to TRUTH--there are no necessary "commandments," though less clever people can try to follow "commandments" best they can if they have difficulty thinking for themselves--as they often do, etc.

And again, the great example for history is magnificent revolution of St. Constantine the Great who revived, at least somewhat, the then moribund Roman emp. of the time, early 4th cent.  Thus the great thing about Christianity and its reason is it unites people on rationalist basis, in all truth, against LIES, Jews, and satanists, this while keeping to natural and healthy racial loyalty, etc.

Note the Jews WOULD push such a thing that dis-unites gentiles against Jew over-lords--something precisely like Christian-Identity which excludes some gentiles against others.

So John, consider it's extremely important to (a) understand the basic and real literary worth and meaning of New Test., as well as (b) being sure about the simple accuracy of this Christian Identity theology, etc., which otherwise is built and dependent so much upon contrivance and wishful thinking.  Why and how was dear Christianity so successful, as for Constantine, so many centuries before the sudden "discovery" about this "Christian Identity" in 19th cent.?

Perfect example for "Stockholm syndrome" in action, before ur very eyes--ck this out--WHY USA is in such horrific danger....

"Stockholm Syndrome" In Action--A PERFECT Example--WHY

USA Is In Such Horrific Danger, Jeopardy

(Apollonian, 5 Mar 14)

"Stockholm syndrome" (SS--see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome) is relating and sympathizing w. one's enemies--it was observed esp. in case of hostages taken during a bank-robbery, the hostages then defending and making excuses for the bank-robbers.  Reason for this sort of sympathy is the hoping enemies won't kill u when they have u in their power, then defending them when they grant ur wish and don't kill u--a kind of psychologic quid-pro-quo.


Note then this SS is somewhat similar, I think, to the psychologic conditioning which is taken-advantage of by the "BIG-LIE" technique, whence (a) top powers tell a blatant, deliberate lie, the (b) people actually much grasping the enormity of the proposition, but (c) then concluding it's too frightening to consider powers would lie, (d) thus deciding, however reluctantly, to going along.  (e) Problem then is these lies then begin to set themselves up as accepted, established truth, people now insisting upon these lies as truth, now even reluctant to analyzing and reviewing for the truth or demonstration of these lies-now-become-precepts.


Observe then for a PERFECT example of this SS before ur very eyes--it happened to me at MemoryHoleBlog.com, specifically at http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/04/pay-your-income-tax/#comments


Ck the entry by "Bill Fred" at March 4, 2014 at 7:17 pm to which I answered w. my own comment (see below-copied)--which was later taken down by the blog's editor, James Tracy, a prof. at a Florida "university" institute of thought-control, which thought-control, I submit, has actually affected the prof. himself, however un-wittingly, as I'll note.


Well, there later came a reply to my own response, afore-mentioned, now taken-down, which attacked me personally--see "Kathy" at March 4, 2014 at 8:51 pm


Soooooooooooo, I duly replied (see below-copied) to dear Kathy, and this reply of mine also was taken-down, dear Kathy's kept-up--how do u like that?  Do u think Tracy is taking sides?  Ho ho ho ho hoo--how, why?--well, my immediate below essay, which I wrote to him at his site's e-mail address, rather covers and analyzes that--Tracy suffers fm SS, I submit.


And note this prof. Tracy pretends to being one who is himself a critic of the establishment media--that's his dept., prof. of "communications" (also "media-studies").


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Why And How USA Is In Such Grave, Serious Danger

(Apollonian, 5 Mar 14)

I see u seem to have gotten caught-up in the emotion of the dialectic which dialectic u've chosen to censor, or edit, as is ur privilege, of course.

So u dis-allowed my comment in reply to whining assertions, if not outright lies, of my opponent--this, while LEAVING UP the entries against me made by that opponent.

U see, Prof., u end-up doing the very same thing u complain about regarding the mass-corp. media, and u do it, we see, in a way that's un-fair to one party, myself, who's actually done u no harm in way of direct criticism against u urself.  U went out of ur way to strike a blow--for what?

And u can't complain about me hurting ur traffic--u just thought u'd step-in and gratuitously affect and stage-manage the debate so as to enhance one party and make the other party look poorly--again, no harm having been done to u by the party u needlessly censor/suppress.

And observe it happens, additionally, the party u assist is actually an admitted fan/admirer of the zionist, Israel-first, neo-con, Krauthammer.  And it's precisely these zionist-types who are the people w. the money resources who flood the blogs and web-sites w. their propaganda, and here u are helping them along, we see.  They can't do it by themselves without u finding it necessary to step-in to helping them, eh?--do u think u'll be rewarded?  Ho ho ho

Thus we see how and why USA goes down the drain, eh, Prof.?--u helping the worst enemies of USA, the very ones most destroying the republic.

And u know what?--I really think if u were to step-back a bit, u might even agree w. me for ur gross lack of judgment, if I may say, for getting caught-up as u did to help out this putrid little zionist shill--it's possible, anyway, I think.

And u know why and how it happened?--u helping out these zionist enemies?  In my opinion, I'd say u actually suffered "Stockholm syndrome" for sympathizing w. the zionist enemy which holds u (mentally/psychologically) hostage for ur stinking job in public edjumacation and thought-control, where u've been bullied and brow-beaten soooooo long and sooooooo much all these years, eh?

U've been trained sooooooo well, haven't u?--that scum dissidents like myself, so otherwise isolated and without too many allies as we are, should NEVER be allowed to shoot-back at these numerous zionist lackeys, liars, and mass-murderers, even in harmless blogs which hardly anyone of great significance even bothers to know or care about.

Amazing, isn't it?--that u'd stoop sooooooo low to aiding the zionist enemies and grave-diggers of ur own country.  I hope u're proud of urself, u're sooooo well-trained for obedience to ur zionist masters, eh?  But don't worry too much, Prof., u're certainly not the only one.

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Here is the response I made to "Bill Fred," noted above, to which "Kathy" then responded:


[I didn't copy the time, but it was pretty quick, about 20 mins, after "Bill Fred's" entry--ck "Kathy's" time for the time differential.]


Apollonian:

Hey Billy boy: does it occur to u propaganda, pro & con, is part of the game?  What's diff. btwn honest dissent or disagreement and whatever else?--which a genius like u would call a shill or troll? ho ho ho ho

What's a "troll" anyway, Billy boy?--someone u don't like, eh?  Ho ho ho ho

Does it occur to u that's the virtue of a free-market and free-speech whence anyone can venture whatever kind of line of prop.?--in the end, it all gets sorted out, doesn't it?

And if there's some worthless prop., then there's either an argument against it--or it doesn't even merit a counter-argument, does it?

We know u want censorship and bannings in order to protect the way u want things, eh?--and this is because u're not bright enough to make counter-arguments, right?

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Kathy says:

March 4, 2014 at 8:51 pm

The demographics would be very enlightening on the difficulties of thwarting off lets guess, 10000 trolls to 1 real person who has something fruitful to offer.

A troll apo boy, is someone or something computer driven, who insults commenters for no real purpose other than to embarrass them and intimidate them into silence.

A troll is someone or something who fills massive lines of gibberish with the goal of making the blog no longer interesting to the thinking folks.

He has troll friends who support him and agree with him, again filling many screens with off topic gibberish.

The list goes on and on with the tactics, which no doubt has been covered here.

Sorry you missed my previous comment where you grossly neglected to provide proof of what percentage each of the evil bankers who own the federal reserve actually own, the subject of your expertise you would lead us to believe.

On that post, I indicated that if this was a democratic blog, you were voted off long ago. Perhaps you just choice to ignore that comment.

Was it Fred who found your pathetic radio interview where you indicated you were just barely making it, but still have running water?

Hope the water is still running because you have a lot of bs you need to wash off!

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I then responded fairly quickly:

apollonian says:

March 4, 2014 at 9:18 pm

Kathy’s Trolling Fits Her Description Thereof, Eh? Ho ho ho

(Apollonian, 4 Mar 14)

Kathy: don’t we KNOW all about u?–u like Charles Krauthammer, the Israel-first neo-con traitor, right?–and we know ur sort and ur Zionist backers got lots of moooola to pay troops of liars like u, eh?

Did I miss ur comment?–perhaps u missed mine–u just go to InfoWars.com search engine, type-in “Ownership of US Federal Reserve Bank” and u get an entire page of research and articles–but u couldn’t figure that out for urself, eh? Ho ho ho ho oho

Indeed, and I’m touched u took the trouble to listen to my radio expositions, eh? Ho ho ho ho–and u were saying my material wasn’t worthwhile, weren’t u?–u really make lots of sense, eh? Ho ho ho ho

U’re a “thinking” sort of folk?–ho ho ho ho–good one, Kathy, dear, ho ho ho ho

“Expertise”?–not necessarily Kathy dear–I merely substantiate my assertions, unlike u, who just asserts. Is there “bs”?–well, what is it?–u don’t bother saying, do u? Ho ho ho ho ho

So u want me “voted off,” eh? Ho ho ho ho ho–and we know why, eh?–u have no real arguments urself, do u? When I say ur crap is “gibberish,” I conclude upon premises to effect u make no sense in particular statements, whence u merely assert without substantiating–rather typical for troll-type statements like urs, eh? Ho ho ho ho ho

When u talk about armies of “trolls” as u describe, u ought to ask urself who has the resources to pay the “trolls,” eh, Kathy old girl? Ho ho ho–they’re un-questionably zionist-sympathizers like urself who loves and admires a traitor like Krauthammer, wouldn’t u say? Ho ho ho ho ho

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

WWII was truly victory for ZOG, communism, Jews, and the insidious income-tax, the Constitutional republic and free society doomed

Below essay by ap first published at comments, http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/04/pay-your-income-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-63175

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Income Tax And Debt Slavery Entrenched, Consolidated By WWII

(Apollonian, 4 Mar 14)

Observe the insidious manner in which the income-tax arose: (a) it's violation, in first place, of US Constitution for apportionment of direct taxes (and still is--see discussion at http://www.simpleliberty.org/tait/the_camel_barks.htm).

(b) The 16th Amendment, which supposedly rectified this requirement for apportionment, was actually NEVER ratified properly (see TheLawThatNeverWas.com)--merely declared to be ratified by criminal politicians (like Philander Knox, Sec. of State, at the time).

So when the income tax first took effect it didn't seem to be too terribly onerous as it only affected those w. the higher incomes, ho ho ho ho

But as inflation of the money supply is very function of US Federal Reserve Bank COUNTERFEIT scam, even working people soon found themselves subject to the tax as their income denoted in nominal dollar amounts rose, making them liable to the tax which heretofore only affected "rich" folk--the old "bait and switch."

Thus WWII was such stupendously successful war for the Western globalist oligarchs, the victory and entrenchment of communist-socialist dictatorship enforcement and the legitimation of world gov. dictatorship based upon very same socialist principles, the fraudulent financial system now consolidated w. the income-tax feeding the payment of interest for the huge debt run up and concocted against the people, now evermore debt slaves.

Note the end-effect of WWII: communist dictatorship is now victorious, legitimated, and firmly established, the free society and Constitutional republic of USA and the West, what was left of it, to be evermore chipped-away and submerged within communist world gov.  War is truly the "health of the state," as we see.  Surely, only a true Christian revival will save us against ZOG.

War is natural in course of things, esp. economic collapse--thus USA requires cultural revolution--REJECTION of Israeli terror-state

Below essay by ap first published at comments, http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/02/28/propaganda-assets-old-and-new/comment-page-2/#comment-63080

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USA Revival Requires Cultural Revolution, REJECTION Of Israeli Terror State

(Apollonian, 3 Mar 14)

Musings: war is traditional, obligatory next step when currency (US Dollar) seriously begins to collapse, as we're already well into intermediate stages of such collapse, as well as quite a bit of a substantial recession.  In fact, we already have SEVERAL little wars going on, eh?

Another consideration is powers want to make sure there's terror and fear among citizenry which will then allow such as martial-law and curtailing of rights, freedom, and dissent.

What are criminals but those who wage war against law, reason, and humanity?--have u observed who/what has taken control of USA, its culture, economy, money & banking system, edjumacation, and even the "Christian"-styled churches?  Is there any doubt there's war against US Constitution, esp. the Bill of Rights?

Of course there are the ABSTRACT cultural problems, esp. in way of general irrationalism which has swept away former Christian-oriented culture of TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH, this in the name of "good" and the perfectly "free" human will.

But in PRACTICAL terms, the CRUX of the ruling criminal conspiracy is US Federal Reserve Bank COUNTERFEIT scam, as I've noted, these powers led by the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Trilateralists, and Bilderbergers.

Only serious, practical hope I see is the return of original American rationalist culture and Christian orientation, TRUTH (hence reason) the only way to Godly happiness (Gosp. JOHN 14:6), this coming in much the same way as St. Constantine the Great much revived the otherwise moribund Roman empire of early 4th cent., Americans thus rejecting, for most poignant example, supporting the terror-state of Israel--this would be tremendous revolution, eh?

John Friend (see his essay-blog, noted) publishes outstanding work of expo, info

Below by ap first published at comments, http://www.john-friend.net/2014/03/why-i-dont-care-for-jews.html#comment-form

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Christian TRUTH And Objectivity Vs. Jew Lies, Subjectivity

(Apollonian, 3 Mar 14)

By golly John: this is MAGNIFICENT essay and expo u give here--I'm positive it will be picked-up and re-published in many places--absolutely outstanding work u've done, w. just the right combination of passion and rational facts--a veritable master-piece, don't doubt.

Indeed: Judaism is a "religion," such as it is, for criminals and psychopaths, the worship of warfare, hence lies.  But it (Talmudism), one must admit, is otherwise brilliant war-program, -strategy, and -psychology, the hubristic making of a people into God's master, God then made to be slave to this monstrous race of psychopaths and murderers called Jews.

Thus Judaism (Talmudism) is well-understood as worship of lies, Christianity then a reaction to this monstrous Judaic perversion of Old Test. and Mosaic Law which our dear Lord and Savior, Christ set about to correct, Christ affirming the existence of TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH as only way to Godly happiness ("Kingdom of God").

And don't doubt this anti-thematic Christian TRUTH vs. Jew Lies can well and easily be analyzed in strict philosophic terms, Christianity upholding TRUTH as foremost virtue, hence the necessary (Aristotelian) objective reality as criterion/premise for such TRUTH, Gosp. of JOHN so affirming and indicating (see in addition to JOHN 14:6, also 8:32, and 18:37-8).

For Jews truth is mere subjectivist (Platonic) convention--WHATEVER serves for "what's good for Jews."  And this subjectivism is demonstrated perfectly in the Talmudic propositions and formulations, the Torah "interpreted" then by Mishnah, the first part of the Talmud, this Mishnah interpretation then FURTHER "interpreted" by the Gemarah, the second part of Talmud, ho ho ho ho--I kid u not--see below references. 

Thus observe Judaism amounts to purest subjectivism, the "interpretation" of a previous "interpretation"--LITERALLY--whatever is "good for Jews," this all decided by the top rabbinic masterminds who won't hesitate to throwing the lower-level Jews (like the old Bolsheviks) under the proverbial "bus" whenever it suits them, ho ho ho ho ho.

For further and best expo on Talmud, see RevisionistReview.blogspot.com and Come-and-hear.com.  Keep up ur tremendous, great work, John--u just get better and better.

American "Civil" war was horrific beginning to definitive imperialism following....

Below essay by ap first published at http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/02/28/propaganda-assets-old-and-new/comment-page-1/#comments


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Delusionary, Hubristic "Good" Foremost Destroyer Of TRUTH, Reason, Justice, Civilization

(Apollonian, 3 Mar 14)

"...[W]hat we did to the Plains Indians was not inevitable, and it should not have been done. White people did not have any justification, in any way, for what was done to them. It was a crime. An unspeakable crime."  [See below-copied for quote source.]

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"We"?--ho ho oho--speak for urself, eh?  And it wasn't "white people" who did it (or anything) to the poor Plains Indians, but rather, the very same interests at the top who mass-murdered the white folk of the American South, the ensuing campaign against Indians simply the next logical imperialist step--it was indubitably, absolutely inevitable.

American age of imperialist expansion got tremendous start w. the "Civil" war; after the Indian extermination, the Spanish-American war mere next logical step, WWI and League-of-Nations world-dictatorship right after it, then WWII consolidation, now AGENDA-21 depopulation genocide all predictable steps in the great satanist game.

And WHAT is the great (satanic) destroyer of TRUTH (Christ)?--that noble lie u champion so desperately, Mr. Patrick, the gross, hubristic, Pharisaist "good-evil" delusion/fallacy/heresy (Pelagianism).

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Patrick says:

March 3, 2014 at 12:56 pm

There is a fantastic book called Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History. I recommend it.


These people, the Indians, stood in the way of Lincoln’s law firm clients: the Northeastern railroad barons. By the time of the war against the South the Chocktaws had long since been removed to the lands across the Mississippi. But the Plains tribes were fighting back against White expansion westward.


Say what you want about America’s founding, and the replacement of the Indians along the Atlantic coast. It’s a story that has been told in every corner of the world, over and over again. But we were Christians, here, and while what we did to the Chocktaws and Cherokees, among others east of the Mississippi, is unconscionable, although inevitable (the Louisiana Purchase made it inevitable), what we did to the Plains Indians was not inevitable, and it should not have been done. White people did not have any justification, in any way, for what was done to them. It was a crime. An unspeakable crime.

Noble lie of "good-evil" destruction of TRUTH, and esp. now public edjumacation in empire-of-lies

Below by ap first published at comments, http://aphilosopher.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/academic-freedom-vs-academic-justice/#comment-34084

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Noble Lie Of "Good-Evil" Essence Of Fool's Paradise

(Apollonian, 1 Mar 14)

It's actually worse than that, AJ (see below-copied), Mike thus preaches a "moralism" of Pharisaism, whence one pushes or defends hubris of "good vs. evil" Pelagianism based upon hubristic, perfectly "free" human will like and equal to God's will.

Thus Mike pushes Platonist, Kantian, subjectivist "noble lie" (good-evil) against objective, monist, determinist, strict cause-effect, "good" as end in itself, vs. good as mere means to honest, straight-forward self-interest.

Mike thus preaches Cartesian-type "dualism," as he admits, imagining this is defensible in reason, a contradictory, determinist world of material substance existing at same time, in same place as subjectivist "free" will of thinking substance--a kind of Zoroastrianism and yin vs. yang.

Thus Mike actually holds to, preaches, and defends MYSTICISM against reason and true philosophy--this is the pass to which things supposedly "civilized" and corrupted edjumacation has fallen, thought-control and the dumbing-down of the students of whom only the very best and brightest can see-through the propaganda.

For note that "good-evil" Pharisaism holds guilt as a good thing, a virtue--which is why white, Christian folk nowadays are so oppressed w. anti-Christianity, the mass-media encouraging blacks to murder whites, as we see, Jews to continue mass-murdering gentiles, etc.

Thus Mike typically poses and pushes the false analogy--without even realizing he does so, evidently--of comparing homosexual "marriage" w. heterosexual marriage, failing to see the culture of homosexualism being intrinsically corrupt and doomed to degeneracy in Spenglerian "Decline of the West," ObongoCare death-panels and AGENDA-21 "population-reduction" genocide right in front of his very eyes, yet he not even blinking.

Yet Mike continues on, not caring or even knowing he lives within a bubble (subjectivist) reality, not realizing it's all going to disappear soon, gone w. the wind--much like the old Roman civilization vanished, finally, never to return.

Does Mike's sort of "philosophy"--a subjectivist mysticism--really serve?--only the satanist rulers win over the hubristic slaves.  And even the rulers will suffer when the slaves are eventually exterminated, though the rulers don't care, living as they do in their "fool's paradise" of good-evil Pharisaism--such is the culture-of-death-worship as Ayn Rand wrote about, all within the empire-of-lies, the lies merely glorified as "noble" and "good."

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